• vortic
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    1691 year ago

    I don’t understand why companies who commit blatant fraud like this aren’t required to disgorge all fraudulently earned money. If someone defrauds banks they get fined based on their earnings in a way that hurts. If someone defrauds consumers for “tens of millions of dollars” they are only fined $16M.

    Well, actually I do understand, I just don’t like it and don’t like what it says about this country’s priorities.

    • @Ranvier@sopuli.xyz
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      1 year ago

      By New York state law you are, any “ill gotten gains” must be surrendered. And the fine accumulates interest during any appeals to boot. it’s why Trump is getting his nearly half a billion dollar fine. I wish all fraud laws were that way though. I believe most are typically based on common law fraud, and usually there’s some kind of flat fine and the the rest is based off provable damages to other parties, rather than the amount of profit.

    • Lev_Astov
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      61 year ago

      Remember kids, if you’re not paying for the service you get from a large company, you aren’t their customer, you’re their product.

      • @ryan213@lemmy.ca
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        111 year ago

        Wait, they’re not common anymore? Lol It’s what I use. Any suggestions for better ones?

            • Hyperreality
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              231 year ago

              That’s not really a choice you can make. Also idiots don’t know they’re idiots.

            • Dizzy Devil Ducky
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              21 year ago

              The whole don’t be an idiot thing doesn’t work well with most people. Most people just gøøg|€ everything and most likely don’t have a clue when they’re being sent to fake sites that will give them viruses. And some of them will even see macrohard defender essentially saying “Hey! You Fucked Up!” and ignore it because they surely know better than a computer.

              I personally like to think that computer literacy right now is similar to back when people were just starting to push for everyone to be literate. Big difference is phones destroying that effort for computer literacy by oversimplifying everything.

        • @BassTurd@lemmy.world
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          251 year ago

          I haven’t run anything other than free Windows defender since it was available I believe in Windows 7. Never had a virus or anything malicious. Don’t download files that you don’t know the source of. Don’t click on mystery links. Don’t visit insecure websites. And as mentioned, keep your system up to date and you’ll be fine.

            • @BassTurd@lemmy.world
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              191 year ago

              I worked geek squad for years. The vast majority of malware was people downloading free games or free software and then not checking the custom install settings to uncheck the “install McAfee security scanner” or whatever toolbar and redirection it was at the time.

          • @stoy@lemmy.zip
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            51 year ago

            Never had a virus or anything malicious.

            That you know about.

            Don’t assume you are fine just because your antivirus doesn’t alert you about viruses.

            This goes for every AV, not just Defender.

            That being said, I am also just using Defender snd it has worked well.

            I used to run F-Secure, and I like it, but eh Defender is good enough.

            • @BassTurd@lemmy.world
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              21 year ago

              I now only run Linux, but that’s a change within the last 4ish months. Prior to that I was in Windows. And I work as a sysadmin and our network it all Windows on defender, granted, paid Defender and other security.

        • @slacktoid@lemmy.ml
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          121 year ago

          Defender + common sense usually works as long as youre not using it like a public library.

  • @LWD@lemm.ee
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    121 year ago

    Oh boy, I sure do hope this happens to other companies that do it!

    FakeSpot by Mozilla: sells browsing history to advertising partners

    Side eyeing the camera

  • @CyberDine@lemmy.world
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    41 year ago

    If you’re gonna pay for Antivirus, shout out to ESET NOD32.

    They have gotten a bit expensive though. I’m buying a 1 year sub for $10 on Black Friday.