• Altima NEO
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    2031 year ago

    Finally. Now my thousands of tabs will be hidden behind hundreds of tabs groups!

    • Corgana
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      421 year ago

      For real, I already have different groups for tabs, they’re called windows.

      • Carighan Maconar
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        41 year ago

        This is the part I absolutely don’t get about this. Plus windows create a better visual boundary for the context-switch tab groups are supposed to be as you minimize one and restore another.

        Why not just use windows? 🤷 I sure hope they keep the implementation of this simple and end up just doing that for the user. Create new tab group -> color-coded new window opens up, gently nudging the user towards how simple the solution to their problem actually is.

        • @errer@lemmy.world
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          71 year ago

          Tab groups in chrome are something I dearly miss from chrome. It’s super convenient for grouping projects and quickly switching between them. Multiple windows is a worse experience: there’s no preview favicon or anything to indicate what a window is actually for until you hover over it. With a tab I can see at a glance what something is before I switch.

    • @ignism@lemmy.world
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      211 year ago

      I really don’t understand people who don’t close tabs. I start with a fresh browser window multiple times per day.

      • @Lag@lemmy.world
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        181 year ago

        We start with a fresh browser window multiple times per day too. Except we also have multiple other windows of tabs minimized already.

        • Carighan Maconar
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          61 year ago

          This reminds me that I once “accidentally” closed about half of those windows - each ~200 tabs - of my then GF. Took her over a month to notice. Tells you all about how useful tab hoarding actually is.

        • Carighan Maconar
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          61 year ago

          You’re right, I don’t. And since browsers come with this really neat feature called “history”, it’s not like I couldn’t trivially re-open them again as needed.

          • @ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml
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            41 year ago

            It’s far easier to have your history cluttered than you might think, and then finding the sites that you need or might need becomes harder.

          • @Vincent@feddit.nl
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            01 year ago

            Yeah but you might forget that you need those tabs. Maaaybe they weren’t that important then, but maybe they are.

            • Carighan Maconar
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              21 year ago

              I think that “weren’t that important” indeed hints at how I keep/toss stuff IRL, too.

              I toss a lot of shit. I don’t keep stuff around for that one hypothetical use case that might crop up in 5 years. Most stuff sells surprisingly well second-hand, and this frees up a lot of money I had otherwise lying around doing fuck all for me.

      • @ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml
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        I don’t have enough time in the day or week or month or year to do everything I want to, so I keep my tabs open until I chip away at them one at a time. It takes a long time, but it doesn’t mean that the tabs aren’t useful to me and won’t remain useful months later.

        • @wildcardology@lemmy.world
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          51 year ago

          That’s me with YouTube videos, sometimes I would see a video on recommended that interests me but don’t have time to watch it immediately, I have to open it on a new tab otherwise I would never find it again. Sometimes it takes me days to find the time to watch it.

          • @Waffelson@lemmy.world
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            11 year ago

            You can add interested videos to playlist “Watch later” and it will available on all devices with your account

            • we is doomed!
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              21 year ago

              I don’t log in to YT to watch any videos, I alao use Newpipe and Stube sans account. Grouping them in Tabs to get to is great for me.

        • @Salix@sh.itjust.works
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          21 year ago

          Why not just bookmark the tabs? Put them in a folder in your bookmark bar called “To Do” or something and they’d all be right there.

          • Altima NEO
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            41 year ago

            Cuz then I’ll have thousands of bookmarks like I already have now

          • @ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml
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            21 year ago

            Here’s the fun part - I already do that. Bookmarks are for ultra-long-term links (1-2+ years minimum), tabs are for short-to-long term links (1 day to 1 year).

      • @Akasazh@feddit.nl
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        51 year ago

        A handy to when it comes to closing tabs: mouse wheel down anywhere on the tab label closed the tab, no need to find the little ‘x’.

        Related: mouse wheel down on a link opens that link in a new tab.

      • @SorryQuick@lemmy.ca
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        31 year ago

        I have one tab per email account. A few for github issues I’m waiting to be fixed. One which is some random search I just use as reminder. None of which I have closed in months. I literally have a script to boot them up on my second monitor everytime I boot my pc.

  • @nycki@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    Firefox had tab grouping first. Before Chrome. And then it broke support for it when they did the add-ons overhaul. I’m surprised bringing it back wasn’t a high priority…

    • @MrOtherGuy@lemmy.world
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      91 year ago

      IIRC the old tab groups feature was eventually removed because telemetry showed that only very few people used it…

        • @MrOtherGuy@lemmy.world
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          211 year ago

          Right, but then you shouldn’t be shocked to find out that a feature was removed because nobody seemed to be using it.

          • @grue@lemmy.world
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            61 year ago

            No, I expect Mozilla to know their market and use other means (like focus groups or surveys or something) to figure out which features are actually popular, instead of lazily using a bad metric.

            • Carighan Maconar
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              Mozilla knows their market. Because of said telemetry.

              How do you think that works? For any other app?

              Hint:

              (like focus groups or surveys or something)

              Not like this. Because they have both shown to be absolutely terrible for this general market preference research.

              • @grue@lemmy.world
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                Did you miss the part of the conversation where folks were pointing out that lots of users turn the telemetry off?

                Your reply is as tone-deaf and non-responsive as sticking your fingers in your ears and yelling “nuh uh!” like a toddler.

                If you want to be persuasive you’ve got to prove that the telemetry is somehow useful in spite of many users turning it off, and you’ve done absolutely fuck-all to argue that.

                • Carighan Maconar
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                  61 year ago

                  You are committing the same mistake as you accuse me of:

                  many users turning it off

                  [citation needed] [how many?]

                  For all you know, maybe the 15 very vocal users in here are the only ones who turn it off. Or do we know that many users do it? How many? 5%? 50%? 95%?

      • Carighan Maconar
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        91 year ago

        Watching people use Chrome, fucking nobody uses it there either, except for work situations where on FF, you’re supposed to be using Multi-Account containers anyways.

  • Rose
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    511 year ago

    I hope Firefox implements a great and robust tab grouping feature. Because they used to have one that worked beautifully.

    Firefox used to have Panorama view, which was a way to group tabs with a nice visual interface. …and they removed it because not enough people were using it.

    …Well if you stopped removing useful and perfectly functional features, maybe you wouldn’t need to rebuild them later when it turns out people do want that feature, huh, Mozilla?

    There’s an extension that reimplements Panorama and it kinda sorta works like it used to.

  • @authed@lemmy.ml
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    271 year ago

    See for yourself, it has almost 3,000 votes now. 👇

    lol… some features requests on Android have many more votes and are being ignored by Google… like ad-hoc Wi-Fi

    • 0xCAFe
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      91 year ago

      Maybe you want to try the Tree Style Tabs or Sideberry extension.

      • HubertManne
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        21 year ago

        I just use power tabs. gives me vertical, grouping, search, sorting, and some rules behaviour you can do but I don’t use that last part.

    • sag
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      81 year ago

      There are Extensions to do that if you want.

      • @krash@lemmy.ml
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        61 year ago

        They require a lot of tinkering for a half-arsed result. Built in vertical tabs like in Vivaldi or edge work and feel much better with just a single setting.

        • sag
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          11 year ago

          There’s a fork of Firefox which have this feature in built known as Floorp which I personally use.

      • Simon Müller
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        11 year ago

        it is, like with this one or various other themes.

        Difference with this one is that it doesn’t need an extension like Sidebery

      • Chewy
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        91 year ago

        True, sadly I’m unable to stop using tree style tabs after getting accustomed to it years ago. It’s one of those rabbit holes I’m unable to climb out of, similar to modern keyboard layouts.

        • @everett@lemmy.ml
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          121 year ago

          Don’t be sad. I’d say you’re doing it right! Vertical space is much more limited than horizontal on 21st century monitors, and tabs are wide, not tall. Tree tab UI enables semantic layout (showing you practically unlimited levels of nesting), plus they always give you consistent room to read page titles. Why should the usability of tabs decrease as you open more of them?

    • @figaro@lemdro.id
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      71 year ago

      This is absolutely not a replacement for the tab group experience Chrome and Edge offer

      • @hothomir@lemmy.world
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        11 year ago

        Absolutely this, there isn’t anything currently from what I’ve found that gives the easy experience that Chrome/Edge has.

        Only thing that I’ve been missing when I moved from Edge, apart from PWA support.

        • @figaro@lemdro.id
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          21 year ago

          Yeah honestly all the other solutions are just copium. Chrome tab groups are exactly what a tab group should be. It’s simple and useful. That’s all I need, all I want.

      • HubertManne
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        01 year ago

        powertabs will give you vertical, grouping, search, sorting, and some rules behaviour

          • HubertManne
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            11 year ago

            I would say its superior. You can create and add tabs to groups. expand and collapse them. make rules for certain sites to auto open in a group you made. sort based on url or name or last used. rename them. move the groups around visually. I do use it with the vertical tab view and tend to ignore the top bar though so it may depend on your usage.

            • @figaro@lemdro.id
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              11 year ago

              It seems a bit too much like glorified bookmarks to me. I’m glad you find it useful though :)

              • HubertManne
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                11 year ago

                I mean you can say that about any tab add on really. You could mostly get it from some sort of auto bookmarking add on that additionally updated it based on browsing within a domain maybe and auto discarding on close although it still would nto quite be there because it would discard to much if you kept several tabs for a domain. I mean it might be able to recognize multiple tabs and save the bookmarks alright but the auto reaping I bet would mess up.

    • @abaddon@lemmy.world
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      I’m away from my PC so I can’t name it but there’s another plugin similar to Tree Style Tabs. The creator claims that TST takes up a lot of resources. I do notice Firefox taking a lot of CPU/mem but that’s probably my fault. I’ve tried both and either works well.

      • dantheclammanOP
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        31 year ago

        Might be talking about Sidebery. I like them both and switch back and forth

  • Popsip
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    131 year ago

    I’m glad they decided to bring back this feature. Really missed having it.

    • @ULS@lemmy.ml
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      This was such an old feature/idea. Cool to see old idea getting new life.

    • @FriendBesto@lemmy.ml
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      Fact that they survive shutdowns because they can live and travel in your bookmarks is a great feature. I use Nextcloud Bookmarks and not FF Sync and they work great.

  • I recently started using simple tab groups and like it. I just wish there was a way to keep my tabs in groups sync’d across devices. So if I open or close a tab in a group on my desktop, when I go to my laptop that group would be updated with the changes. It doesn’t seem to work that way currently, at least when I tested it out.

  • @black_hole@lemmy.world
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    81 year ago

    I’ve been using Ungoogled Chromium at work just for the tab grouping. I’ll gladly use Firefox 100% if this is as good.

  • @Kostyeah@lemmy.ca
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    81 year ago

    This is what has been keeping me on chromium for my study partition. I would love to use Firefox, but I need to group tabs by class. Once Firefox implements this I’ll be able to drop google products completely.

    • @khorak@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      I’m using FF tab groups and Sideberry, other than the occasional link getting opened in the wrong group I haven’t had issues. I really need to test Chrome and it’s profiles to see what the fuss is all about :D

  • @BakedCatboy@lemmy.ml
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    81 year ago

    This is exciting - after the demise of Panorama I used Quicksavers Tab Groups plugin, then when that died I moved to Simple Tab Groups, which to me is a good enough clone of Panorama. But something more modern would be super nice.