Rust is more like: unless you can mathematically prove to me that this is equivalent to a nut there is no ducking way I’ll ever let you compiled this.
And then still segfault
https://github.com/Speykious/cve-rs/blob/main/src/segfault.rs
If you can make safe Rust segfault you’re doing something wrong.
To be fair, you are doing something wrong if you’re app segfaults no matter what anguage you wrote it in…
Despite that, some languages make it easier to be wrong than others.
IME Rust programs crash at about the same rate as other languages. “Rewrite everything in Rust” hasn’t made much of a difference for me, so far.
Rust programmers vastly overestimate how many bugs are caused by memory problems
Yeah. The verdict is still out on whether having a deeply surly compiler will help me focus on iterating and understanding the client’s needs.
I run Python CICD controls on main with at least the same level of prissiness (as Rust comes with), but at least Python knows how to shut up and let me prototype.
I’m currently not convinced that Rust’s opinionated design hits a useable long term sweet spot.
But I think if Rust adds a debug flag
--fuck-off-i-need-to-try-something, it could genuinely become the next Python, and the world would be better for it.Edit: And if I just missed the
--fuck-off-i-need-to-try-somethingRust flag, someone point me at it, and I’ll gladly give Rust another run.Once you get the hang of rust you don’t ever need to ask it to do unsafe things. It’s not really any faster to do things unsafe
It’s not really any faster to do things unsafe
Yeah. Which is how I roll with Python now, as a Python Zen master. But Python was a little charmer when I was learning it to replace my Perl scripts.
In contrast, Rust would not shut up the last time I was trying to do an unsafe local bubble sort, just to get to know it. What I got to know was that I was working with a language that was going to go out of it’s way to get in my, each time way I wanted to do something it didn’t like.
Rust was easily the worst first date with a programming language I have had in a long time, and I can code in both varieties of ‘Pikachu’.
Again, it’s just my first impression, not the last word on the language. But I have enough tools in my belt that I didn’t need to add Rust.
I’ll try that ‘unsafe’ flag next time, and we will see if it can sort my local music files by artist name without having a security fit.
Edit: Responses here have convinced me not to give Rust another shot. Reeks of the Java community. If that’s what’s happening here, the Java devs can have this one to themselves. They’ll probably fill it with XML again. I didn’t want to like Rust anyway. And everyone needs to get off my lawn.
StackOverflow: Question closed as duplicate. Someone else already asked whether or not something is a nut.
“Question closed as duplicate”
The question it’s a duplicate of: “How to programmatically prove a hotdog is a sandwich?”
C# should actually be “What Java said, except it’s
ICrackable”.No, actually C#'s answer should be: “What Java said - hold on, what Python said sounds good too, and C++'s stuff is pretty cool too - let’s go with all of the above.”
C#, or as I like to call it “the Borg of programming languages”.
I got my first software developer role last year and it was the first time I’d written C#, I was more TypeScript. Now we use both but I must say I really like C# now that I’m used to it.
I think most programmers would like C# if they spent time with it. It is getting a bit complex because the joke about it over borrowing from other languages is on the money. It is a nice language though and pretty damn fast these days all things considered.
Java: “Sorry, but the developers of
Peanutdidn’t declare it to implement theCrackableinterface, even though it has all the relevant methods, so if you want to treat it like a nut your choices are write a wrapper class or call those methods using Reflections”Swift’s extensions system has spoiled me, and I feel the pain of this whenever I have to write Java
You should take a look at kotlin, pretty similar to swift and fully interoperable with java.
Ditto, but Rust’s traits. God those are so fun. It’s like duck typing a la Python but you can just slap whatever methods you want on a foreign type without worrying about breaking anything because they’re only visible to the current crate (or other crates that import the Trait)
C can STRUCTurise classes thoYeah, you can technically write object oriented code in C. Or any other language. Just that actual OOP languages provide a nicer syntax and compile time checks.
Rust is kind of a good example of this. It’s technically not an object oriented language, but the trait system brings it close.
Time for Rust++
But, why?
most C programs are just C++ programs with extra steps if you look at them close enough
I want my vs code to look like this
wheres scala?
It’s incompatible with the version of this meme
C++: Nuh, uh …
template concept Crackable = requires(T obj) { { obj.crack() }; }; auto crack(Crackable auto& nut) { nut.crack(); }This is dangerous. The object might not have the crack() method, and this bloats the compiled size by a lot if you use it with different types. There’s also no reason I can see to use concepts here. The saner way would probably be to use inheritance and objects to mimic Java interfaces.
This is dangerous
Well, they say you do have to be over 18 to use Concepts
All those memes picturing C++ as unsafe and unstable yet the server that serves these memes is running mostly C/C++ and has an uptime of months.
Lemmy is written in Rust. There might be bits of C at the periphery behind bindings.
And linux is written in C.
Predominantly C. But even the kernel is beginning to use Rust as a way of avoiding entire classes of programming error.
Ruby: No, it has been redefined as the number 5 so buckle your seatbelts, kiddos, cuz shit’s about to get wild!
I just dabbled in javascript again, and that description is spot on!
console.log(‘javascript operators are b’ + ‘a’ + + ‘a’ + ‘a’);
The only reason people use JS is because it’s the defacto language of browsers. As a language it’s dogshit filled with all kinds of unpleasant traps.
Here is a fun one I discovered the other day:
new Date('2022-10-9').toUTCString() === 'Sat, 08 Oct 2022 23:00:00 GMT' new Date('2022-10-09').toUTCString() === 'Sun, 09 Oct 2022 00:00:00 GMT'So padding a day of the month with a 0 or not changes the result by 1 hour. Every browser does the same so I assume this is a legacy thing. It’s supposed to be padded but any sane language would throw an exception if it was malformed. Not JavaScript.
