• DarkThoughts
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      1410 months ago

      There’s not much of a reason to drink milk nowadays anyway. Oat milk has become so good in emulating the taste of cow milk that there’s just no point in going for the original product with all its massive downsides.

      • @AliasAKA@lemmy.world
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        1610 months ago

        Please give me recommendations of oat milk that tastes good. I’ve been desperately looking and/or hoping for bacterial production to kick off to make it more environmentally sustainable, but I haven’t found anything that tastes remotely as good (on its own or in a latte). I drink ultrafiltered milk for what it’s worth, usually 2% so I don’t need the creamy aspect, I just like the flavor.

        • @garretble@lemmy.world
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          For me, Planet Oat’s milk is pretty good, but their “Barista Lovers” version is the most like regular milk to me. It’s really white and acts the most like regular milk. This should just be the default milk they make, to be honest. It’s somewhat hard to find, unfortunately, but they have a map at their site that can help.

          https://planetoat.com/products/barista-lovers-oatmilk/

          • @AliasAKA@lemmy.world
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            210 months ago

            I think I’ve tried this before but will give it another shot, maybe I just got the regular one.

            I wonder too if there are genetic differences at play. Like folks that taste cilantro differently.

            Anyways if it’s 90% as good as milk then that’ll be good enough for me to switch haha, thanks!

            • @garretble@lemmy.world
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              You’re welcome!

              I hope you like it. I end up buying a couple of cartons every time I’m in the store, ha.

            • @BlindFrog@lemmy.world
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              US based here. Saaaame, I didn’t like Planet. I get Plant Folk oatmilk from Sam’s club, and I now detest anything more thick or savory than that. If anything, Plant Folk’s a little watery compared to most oat milks I tried locally.

        • DarkThoughts
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          I don’t know what is available where you’re living. I buy the Vemondo No Milk from my local Lidl. The name comes from the fact that we cannot legally call those milk alternatives “milk”, so a lot of brands now go with “no milk” or “not milk” instead of “oat drink”. lol

          They have a Barista oat milk too but I found that one to be not that great, so I can at least encourage you to try different companies & product lines even within the same company.

        • shastaxc
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          210 months ago

          I’ve personally found pea milk to be the substitute that most closely resembled cows milk in taste and texture.

      • @Dkarma@lemmy.world
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        The main reason to drink milk is not taste. It’s the perfect mix of macros for growing kids. Plant based drinks cannot come close to real milk for nutrition.

      • @spizzat2@lemm.ee
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        I have yet to find a milk substitute that pours the same way, specifically over cereal, but even into a glass. Dairy milk holds itself together fairly well, but non-dairy milk tends to splatter all over the place.

        It’s a minor inconvenience that in no way counters said downsides of dairy milk, but it’s a frequent reminder that it’s not the same.

      • @Treczoks@lemmy.world
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        Only if your tastebuds have failed completely. You probably smoke or have killed your sense of taste by other means if you believe that.

        • @Lemming6969@lemmy.world
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          Yo these people both disagree and downvoted you… They are crazy if they think plant juices taste anything close to milk without having defective taste buds.

        • @starman2112@sh.itjust.works
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          Oat milk tastes better than cow milk and I’ll die on this hill. The only reason I don’t drink it regularly is because it’s so much more expensive than the subsidized option

          • @Treczoks@lemmy.world
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            The price for oat milk is a scam. The ingredients to make 1 liter of oat milk costs about 10 cents. The rest is profit milked off the gullible.

        • DarkThoughts
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          010 months ago

          No and no. But your ad hominem really opened my eyes to how wrong i was.

          • @JonsJava@lemmy.worldM
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            I actually agree with Treczoks about them not tasting remotely the same.

            My wife gets the extra creamy oat milk. I can easily tell it’s not regular milk, and it’s just not for me. I honestly tried to like it.

            • DarkThoughts
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              It’s a matter of finding the right one, as I’ve already explained in my other comment. Either way, not a reason to get personal.

                • DarkThoughts
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                  010 months ago

                  I’m talking about the guy that I reported which I would’ve guessed is how you got to this comment.

    • @FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today
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      Well TBF outbreaks of AIDs causing viruses probably wasn’t high on the list in 1386 but I agree with your sentiment.

      • prole
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        AIDS-causing viruses? H5N1 is influenza… Have I missed some kind of news that we can get AIDS from the flu now??

          • @werefreeatlast@lemmy.world
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            No way… Masking up makes the person not look as cool doing it. It doesn’t feel as good.

            No problem! Now you can get "silicone face shields! SFS or SupaFaSe! With SupaFaSe, you feel every one of his airborne molecules going into your body! With SupaFaSe-R, ribbed, the molecules are extra bouncy for your pleasure! Ask for SupaFaSe-R over the counter!

          • Link? Or are we just trolling the surprisingly large overlap of people who are unjustifiably freaked out by AIDS and people who think wearing masks is limiting their freedums?

        • @FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today
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          Bird Flu is not just regular stomach flu. Avian Influenza is a threat on a larger scale, but I guess I might have been misinformed on the connection to auto-immune disease as the two are often presented as a singular issue when brought to attention (an immune compromised individual will very likely die from H5 infection).

  • AmidFuror
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    If they had fed the mice ivermectin and turmeric first, and rubbed some urine in their eyes, they would have been immune, probably.

    • @tal@lemmy.today
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      Is turmeric used as some kind of alt-medicine thing?

      kagis

      Ah. Apparently some researcher tried putting out fraudulent papers to make money on some company about two decades back.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curcumin

      Research fraud

      Bharat Aggarwal, a former cancer researcher at the University of Texas MD Anderson Cancer Center, had 29 papers retracted due to research fraud as of July 2021. Aggarwal’s research had focused on potential anti-cancer properties of herbs and spices, particularly curcumin, and according to a March 2016 article in the Houston Chronicle, “attracted national media interest and laid the groundwork for ongoing clinical trials”.

      Aggarwal cofounded a company in 2004 called Curry Pharmaceuticals based in Research Triangle Park, North Carolina, which planned to develop drugs based on synthetic analogs of curcumin. SignPath Pharma, a company seeking to develop liposomal formulations of curcumin, licensed three patents by Aggarwal related to that approach from MD Anderson in 2013.

      FDA warnings about dietary supplements

      Between 2018 and 2023, the FDA issued 29 warning letters to American manufacturers of dietary supplements for making false claims of anti-disease effects from using products containing curcumin. In each letter, the FDA stated that the supplement product was not an approved new drug because the “product is not generally recognized as safe and effective” for the advertised uses, that “new drugs may not be legally introduced or delivered for introduction into interstate commerce without prior approval from FDA”, and that the “FDA approves a new drug on the basis of scientific data and information demonstrating that the drug is safe and effective”.

      Alternative medicine

      Though there is no evidence for the safety or efficacy of using curcumin as a therapy, some alternative medicine practitioners give it intravenously, supposedly as a treatment for numerous diseases. In 2017, two serious cases of adverse events were reported from curcumin or turmeric products—one severe allergic reaction and one death—that were caused by administration of a curcumin-polyethylene glycol (PEG40) emulsion product by a naturopath. One treatment caused anaphylaxis leading to death.

    • @SoleInvictus@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      But only if it was a woman’s urine collected during menstruation, then aged for no less than four weeks, having been exposed to no light other than moonlight.

      You can determine potency by the taste.

      /s

  • @bulwark@lemmy.world
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    I’m not a huge fan of milk, but if the FDA says that there’s a potential to get H5N1 from drinking it straight from the cow, they don’t have to tell me twice. Incidentally, I caught H1N1 on the Tokyo subway a few years back. It gave me a really bad fever for a couple of days. Would not recommend.

  • @Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de
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    “Not to be outdone by China some sections of the USA populace tried to start their own pandemic in 2024 by drinking raw milk from H5N1 infected cows”

  • RBG
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    Everytime I see “riddled” and “virus” together I cannot help but think of that Ricky Gervais/Liam Neeson sketch… “riddled with AIDS”