• Kalkaline
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    Why would you go to Starbucks if another local coffee shop was nearby? Their coffee is fine, but it loses taste tests to McDonald’s. They’re anti union. They’re too expensive. You can usually get a better coffee elsewhere.

    • @HeyJoe@lemmy.world
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      That’s crazy. Someone told me McDonald’s coffee is pretty good for the lower price range. I tried it a few times since you never know if it was just a bad batch, and I gotta say it was pretty awful, not for me. I just avoid starbucks because they think they can charge you the most ridiculous price I’ve seen for ok coffee. I have a few local places I will go to if I need something. Sadly, they are pretty expensive as well these days, but they are still cheaper than starbucks.

      • @criticon@lemmy.ca
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        71 year ago

        I wonder if the people who claim that only order the sugary stuff. I tried McDonald’s a couple of times recently after reading online that they got the Tim Hortons OG coffee provider and it was awful. I’m not a fan of Starbucks but at least they serve consistently good coffee (not great). I only get it if I’m on company expenses

        • Boomer Humor Doomergod
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          51 year ago

          The best mass market coffee I’ve had is, no joke, Sheetz. If their fancy machines are to be believed, they’re grinding the beans fresh every time and doing some kind of pressurized brewing method. For each cup. And if you buy something else it’s usually free.

          • @ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world
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            41 year ago

            Wawa has great coffee, too. I don’t think it’s anything to do with the coffee itself or the brewing process - it’s because they sell a shit ton of it so you never get stale coffee that’s been sitting in an urn all day.

          • @EatATaco@lemm.ee
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            01 year ago

            Funny how everyone’s tastes are different. There is a Sheetz with a gas station on the way back from where I go skiing a lot and I often stop for gas and coffee. I keep hoping the coffee won’t be garbage, but it always is.

            I don’t even like Starbucks but there are plenty of blends they have that I would pick over sheetz any day.

            • Boomer Humor Doomergod
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              11 year ago

              Are you getting it out of a thermos or from the fancy machines? The thermos stuff wasn’t that great but IMHO the machines make a fantastic cup. I think they’re just making espresso and watering it down to an americano, though, so if that’s not your thing I can see why you wouldn’t like it.

        • @Salix@sh.itjust.works
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          I personally do not like any sugar in my coffee unless at a Viennese coffee house. I have a lot of amazing coffee roasters in the area.

          I still find McDonald’s coffee to be good for the price. Well, as long as there is a bit of creamer in it. I don’t ever eat at McDonald’s, I only go there for coffee if I need something quick and cheap that is better than gas station / 7-Eleven / Starbucks coffee.

          I don’t use creamer/milk in any actual good coffee. I prefer my coffee black to actually taste it, and normally it’s already sweet without anything added. And don’t like drip coffee usually.

      • I like MacDonalds coffee, but it is acidic, which I equate to the ‘breakfast blend’ Latin American type coffee that I assume it is. I can absolutely see that as tasting awful to some palates.

        Also has been some years since I had the hot coffee. I did have their ice coffee a few years ago, and it was solidly okay for 1 CAD.

        • nick
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          It’s different in different markets. In Australia and New Zealand it’s usually a reasonably well made medium-dark blend.

          You’ll get much better at any dedicated café, but it’s also miles better than sbux (who don’t even use real espresso machines).

        • Trailblazing Braille Taser
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          It’s no contest for my taste buds. Black coffee from McDonald’s tastes like carbon, whereas coffee from Starbucks actually has a coffee flavor.

    • @Cryophilia@lemmy.world
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      I love the Starbucks sugar and fat loaded frappucinos.

      Fortunately, there’s a unionized Starbucks near me! A little out of the way but I make the trip. I feel ok supporting that branch and only that branch.

    • @phoneymouse@lemmy.world
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      The reason is the app. If you’re in a hurry, being able to walk in and have your coffee ready is huge. I love to support the local coffee shops and I do on weekends, but it can be risky in the middle of the week if you’ve got to get to work and the local place has a long line or someone ahead of you orders a fancy drink and all you want to do is grab a cup of coffee, pay, and leave.

  • @abcd@feddit.org
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    821 year ago

    Starbucks, do you remember when the German government lowered the VAT in July 2020 for restaurants when COVID hit us? The intention was to make food cheaper for the consumer to prevent restaurants from going bankrupt.

    That’s the month you increased your prizes to sell your stuff for the same prize including VAT as before and making more profit, giving your customers a huge middle finger.

    Pepperidge Farm remembers.

    • I’m fron Germany and have never bought anything there. There tax evation strategy is disgusting. They use our roads, our people, our country and pay close to 0 taxes in Luxembourg or Panama with money earned in Germany.

    • @Etterra@lemmy.world
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      Wow that’s BS. I don’t pay attention to them because I don’t drink their garbage coffee, and as an American this never crossed my radar from this angle either. Screw Starbucks.

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    Started going to a small local coffee shop a little over two years ago, and I’ll never go back to the giant chains. The people working are always happy, greet regulars by name, always go out of their way to interact or talk with me- usually remember something we talked about before, comp my orders every now and then, host little events, etc. It’s not just them either - I always have a way better experience going to non-chain coffee places. Oh, and the coffee is always waay better and priced better.

    • @Zombiepirate@lemmy.world
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      261 year ago

      Sometimes I’ll work out of a small local cafe that roasts their own beans on site.

      It’s insane how much better the coffee is for the same price, and they know my order before I even say anything.

      Plus, I can get excellent beans from them to brew at home, and I’m supporting a local business instead of a megacorp.

    • @QuarterSwede@lemmy.world
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      Dutch Bros is where it’s at. Actually good roasts and the same price or less. That said, I make my own Americano at home in about 2 min while making breakfast and it’s consistently great.

      • @ShepherdPie@midwest.social
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        I bought stock in them during their IPO and want them to succeed as a company since they’re from my home state, but honestly their coffee is terrible to me. I used to go there all the time but dislike it now after branching out more.

      • @Tikiporch@lemmy.world
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        Dutch Bros. has been good every time I’ve tried them. I don’t believe their coffee is markedly better than any other coffee chain. It comes down to how much you pay your staff, so that they give a shit about their jobs, so that tasks like roasting beans and cleaning equipment is done properly and regularly.

        • @QuarterSwede@lemmy.world
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          Starbucks is known for its over roasted (burnt) flavor. That’s intentional. Dutch Bros doesn’t do that. Are they that much better than other smaller chains or independents? Probably not but they’re everywhere and easy to get in and out of.

      • kbin_space_program
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        The first thing Starbucks did when they bought Teavana was increase the prices by 25 - 50%, despite them already being on the upper end of local looseleaf tea shops.

        Combine that with the change from actual tea to sugar-added, Oprah approved crap signed the death warrant for that chain.

      • @Warl0k3@lemmy.world
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        Yeah! What’s your shoe size, OP? You got a dog? A cat? A mother? “Everyone” has one, right. You seriously expect us to believe that? Prove it! Come on, what’s her maiden name? Her date of birth? Her routing number! Where was she last thursday night, out back of bakers garage like she was supposed’ta be? Better make sure you get your facts straight OP, or me and my partner Flippy “The Iceman” here will show ya what we do to commenters down in jersey what don’t put up with our unreasonable demands, capiche?

    • @ours@lemmy.world
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      Overpriced cafeinated milkshakes for adults makerating masquerading as “coffee”.

        • @CileTheSane@lemmy.ca
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          I used to be middle management in retail. The province wide financial meetings had franchisees shitting themselves because the profit vs cost percentage had gone down, despite the actual profit amount continuing to increase (by raising prices).

          These people do not live in reality. All numbers must always go up.

      • @rekorse@lemmy.world
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        They really should post their expected goals along side the loss.

        For example they could have a goal of 3% increase which means they undershot their goal by a stupid margin.

  • Moah
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    We raised or prices and consumers stopped buying! What is the invisible hand of the market doing? We were promised everlasting growth!

  • @ArtVandelay@lemmy.world
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    Honestly, it wasn’t the $7 coffee that turned me away from starbucks. It was the $7 coffee that taste like toilet water, when there are no shortage of local, cheaper coffee shops with amazing brews made by people who actually want to be there, who also won’t be fired for unionizing.

  • @Chessmasterrex@lemmy.world
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    281 year ago

    For granted, there’s no shortage of coffee shops in my city. Locally operated and owned, and they have better coffee at better prices. Starbucks isn’t even a reasonable choice with so many better options available.

    • @GBU_28@lemm.ee
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      21 year ago

      I’d always choose a smaller spot anyway. More casual and less crowded, but still doing good business.

      • @kent_eh@lemmy.ca
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        More casual and less crowded, but still doing good business.

        And probably better value for money as well.

  • @Snapz@lemmy.world
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    I suggest a community owned and operated service where we can offer Starbucks and McDonald’s words of support during these especially difficult times…

    But exactly because the times are difficult for them right now, WE CAN CHARGE THEM SURGE PRICING for the supportive messages!!! Let’s also fire conduct an employment status reassignment activity for 60% of the human message writer workforce and replace them with AI and cheap offshore call centers!!! Also, let’s sell our now collected sadness data on Starbucks and McDonald’s to our third party partners like Kleenex so that they can also charge them surge prices for tissues as we have reliable data to show that they are crying right now!!!

  • @Bertuccio@lemmy.world
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    I started boycotting Starbucks when I learned they had partnered with Nestle for store-bought products - their Sumatra and Komodo Dragon coffees were pretty good.

    I send an email every year or so to let them know, since boycotts aren’t effective if the group being boycotted doesn’t know why, with predictably apathetic responses.

    Anyway, if you’re a no-Nestle person then Starbucks is on the list…

    • @bookcrawler@lemmy.world
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      Thanks! Did not know about the Nestle connection. We stopped going to Starbucks when it moved to a fast food type experience vs the cafe feel it had at launch here.

      Will be verifying they moved the hell away from Nestle before we consider returning.

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        Awesome. Unfortunately the agreement was made “in perpetuity” so there’s no obvious route to them leaving Nestle.

        That’s part of why I actually email them, and in the first email I said that I’m bothering to send anything because I do really like their stuff, and I think their other charitible actions mean I can hope they’ll take customer feedback. As opposed to Nestle which I expect to tell me to gfm.

        I’ve steadily leaned away from that belief as the company digs farther in to being every crappy anti-labor chain.

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    Watching them trying to bust unionization efforts in their shops just totally turned me off the brand. I haven’t been into one of their shops or bought any of their products at retail since.

    At this point I’ve found better local places but mostly I just got used to making my own iced coffee and it would be silly to bother going back.

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      Yep, this too. They used to feel cool despite being a large corporation. Now they feel like a corporate cesspool with Apps and anti-unions and $10 sandwiches smaller than the size of a drink coaster. It’s not fun anymore, and it’s not fun to just be there, especially with people running in and out with the App to just grab things.

      But look in the positive side, although they probably lost or will lose 30% of their customer base, at least they can increase profits by 1 percent by having more back-end tracking data to sell from some remaining customers willing to download a shitty ad-infected closed source App!

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    241 year ago

    Personally I resent how they redefine sizes.

    I want a coffee I don’t want to have to read in English to twat translation guide to be able to order one.

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      This! God damn I’m so sick of asking for a large and they give me a Venti (aka extra large) telling me “oh thats what you asked for”

      You do realize your shitty size names actually have some meaning in other languages right? Grande = Large. Also 16oz = large.

      That said, I think I go to them like 2 times a year now when everything else is closed and I have to choose between them and Tim Horton’s.

      Also, fuck corps and their decision to upsize a large to 20oz in other companies. Can’t remember exactly when that started (15 years ago or so?) however I think the first ones to do it were McDonalds and Tim Horton’s here in Canada.

      Just makes me recall Super Size Me.

    • @BruceTwarzen@lemm.ee
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      I’m NOT calling it a venti, this is AMERICA, we speak AMERICAN. i don’t want your frappe latti sugar drinks. I DEMAND my AMERICAN coffee AND YOU BETTER SPEAK AMERICAN.

    • @Asifall@lemmy.world
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      In my experience most Starbucks workers will just let you say small/medium/large without questioning it.