• @AccurstDemon@sopuli.xyz
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    2 years ago

    Electromagnetic radiation, as in visible light, radio signals or as this Iphone has a fucking RMBK melting its core inside?

    Someone has a link to those test they performed to claim this?

    I call it bullshit

    • @huginn@feddit.it
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      742 years ago

      Microwaves. It’s microwaves.

      Phones are slightly above FM radio and slightly below microwaves in terms of wavelength.

      They’re a non-ionizing radiation emitter.

      The radiation emitted by phones ain’t gonna hurt ya.

      • umbraroze
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        312 years ago

        That’s right! However, remember that bananas have potassium-40 in it, which is radioactive. Not much, though. So be very very mildly careful around bananaphones! /old joke

        • @isthingoneventhis@lemmy.world
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          202 years ago

          Back in the early 00s there was this wave of “phones give you cancer” panic and my friends father made them put on this stupid sticker on the back of their phone to “stop the radiation”. Anyways it was stupid and your comment reminded me of it xD

        • @cloud@lazysoci.al
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          12 years ago

          Also remember that plants have been around before humans and that we evolved to resist natural radiations. We haven’t evolved yet to be around devices that produces more radiations than the limit agreed by scientists

          • @Buddahriffic@lemmy.world
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            12 years ago

            Radioactive bananas is a relatively new thing resulting from all the nuclear bomb testing that went on from the 40s in to the 90s.

      • @gaael@lemmy.world
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        132 years ago

        I seem to remember it was not a ionization issue but something with local temperatures increases around the ear when you were using it without an earset.

        Anyway, Apples knows what the norms are, decided not to care, gets caught and has to retire a phone, nothing exceptional here.

        • @marmarama@lemmy.world
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          2 years ago

          I doubt they’d have to retire the phone - digital radio power levels are normally pretty easy to change in the radio firmware. Which also means it’s pretty easy to change, intentionally or unintentionally, in a later OS version.

          Perhaps Apple chose to cheat to improve reception after mandatory testing was complete and the phone was available to buy, figuring they’d never get caught out. Perhaps Apple didn’t retest with later OS versions and it was unintentional. We will probably never know.

      • @cloud@lazysoci.al
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        92 years ago

        Can’t you read? The article says the EU has a limit of 4 watts per kilogram and the device produces more than that. Scientists agreed on that limit.

      • Obinice
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        52 years ago

        How is it 2023, when everybody uses microwave radios for communication constantly, and there are still people that don’t understand the absolute basics, like the difference between radio/light radiation and ionising radiation? And how important transmit power is to how dangerous or not a radio wave is?

        They do teach this stuff in schools still, right?

        It boggles my mind. It’s not some complex difficult topic, it’s like not knowing how electricity works, or how your body works. This is basic child level knowledge that everybody interacts with every single day, so it behoves them to understand it at least at an introductory level.

      • @TenderfootGungi@lemmy.world
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        -42 years ago

        This is likely mostly true, but there is evidence brain tumor rates went up when handheld cell phones came into widespread use.

        • @TheFonz@lemmy.world
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          02 years ago

          Also more marvel movies came out. It’s interesting how often we have to repeat the correlation/causation joke and people still struggle with it.

    • Kabe
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      2 years ago

      To be fair, it’s not completely made-up. There is a body of evidence that suggests that even non-ionizing EM radiation may have so-called “biological effects” in humans.

      Organizations like the Environmental Health Trust have been banging the “cellphones cause infertility and cancer” drum for years, and cites numerous studies on their website.

      Of course, much of this research is of questionable relevance to real-world use cases involving actual phones and actual humans as opposed to, say, a bunch of rats being exposed to low-power microwaves in a lab for hours on end, but it exists nonetheless.

        • @cloud@lazysoci.al
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          22 years ago

          Meanwhile apple and chinese factories have 0 interests in shadowing researches that could put in danger their biggest source of income

        • Kabe
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          12 years ago

          Certainly, but the existence of this research is why countries like France are taking this precautionary approach.

          • @huginn@feddit.it
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            -12 years ago

            There is research that exists suggesting that the Nazis are currently plotting their return from a moon base.

            France should take the precautionary approach of nuking the dark side of the moon.

            Equally valid.

            • Kabe
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              I get that you’re trying to be funny, but no they’re not exactly “equally valid”.

              The WHO lists RF waves (including those from cellphones) under category Group 2B of possible carcinogens, along with a bunch of other stuff.

              Are they being overly cautious? Almost certainly, yes. However, the idea is not inherently ridiculous.

      • @fadhl3y@lemmy.world
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        22 years ago

        EHTrust are mad as a box of frogs. They claim that phones cause cancer, which is something that all major cancer research charities dispute. Nothing they say can be taken seriously.

  • HeartyBeast
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    172 years ago

    The agency said the iPhone 12 met the threshold when radiation levels were assessed for a phone kept in a jacket or in a bag.

    Free bumpers incoming

    • Skua
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      702 years ago

      Are not typically held directly against your head

      • @TheGreatFox@lemm.ee
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        282 years ago

        Hey, don’t kink shame. Some people like pressing their heads against french nuclear reactors.

        • @Honytawk@lemmy.zip
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          22 years ago

          Finally someone I can come out to.

          I’m a reactor licker, and proud of it.

          The taste is so energetic!

      • @hddsx@lemmy.ca
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        172 years ago

        Only in a jacket or bag. I love my new pocket nuclear reactor. It’s the smallest nuclear reactor ever, and I think you’re going to love it