Just around 24 hours after Musk made his comments, more than 42,000 new users joined Bluesky, making it the biggest signup day yet for the currently invite-only platform that launched earlier this year.

Bluesky saw a total of 53,585 new signups by the end of Tuesday, September 19. The new users gained in that single day make up 5 percent of the platform’s entire user base of 1,125,499 total accounts.

The new user signups are tracked via the third-party website “Bluesky Stats.” Looking over Bluesky signup numbers on the tracker for the past month, it appears that the platform usually sees from 10,000 to 20,000 new signups per day. Bluesky has doubled its usual daily new user numbers already, with many more hours left in the day still to go.

It’s impossible to know whether Musk’s comments about charging users to post on X really played a role in this, but it almost certainly had some effect.

  • @blindbunny@lemmy.ml
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    1651 year ago

    Great another social media platform from the same fart huffing dumb asses that sold Twitter… it’s like people don’t learn lessons.

    • Natanael
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      FYI jack isn’t in control of the site and in fact even deleted his account after the userbase mocked him hard enough, he’s all in on nostr now

      Also it has federation in testing in a sandbox environment open to external developers, it will work similarly to Mastodon in that regard

      • @DrQuint@lemm.ee
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        161 year ago

        “Mr Dorsey, ypur new platform is picking up, people are starting to use it”

        “… I’m bored”

        “Excuse me?”

        “I don’t want to have a social platform. I just want to make them” *Starts to leave*

        “Mr. dorsey? Where are you going? Jack!?”

        • Natanael
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          51 year ago

          Uhm no not at all, 3rd party servers already exists and people can talk across them, telegram has no relevance here

    • @psycho_driver@lemmy.world
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      201 year ago

      I learned today that you’d have to be confined in a small room with approximately a year’s worth of farts before you risk asphyxiation.

    • @realharo@lemm.ee
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      391 year ago

      It’s also controlled by another crypto shill, so it has that in common with Twitter too.

    • @PaulHulford@lemmy.world
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      791 year ago

      Each current member usually get at least one invite to share biweekly. That’s how they have been growing it.

      • PlasterAnalyst
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        Google+ did the same thing when it rolled out, then they tried to force people to use it before they cancelled the project.

        • @Doug@midwest.social
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          571 year ago

          In fairness, Gmail had a similar invite system when it launched and that’s been way more successful than G+

          • wjrii
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            Gmail was also both “federated” and an insanely good product compared to its contemporaries. G+ had a couple of interesting innovations, but it wasn’t all that special and invite-only on a closed ecosystem is very iffy.

            • @GreenMario@lemm.ee
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              281 year ago

              Gmail was literally the best. 1GB space at launch when you’d get a dozen MB in Hotmail and others, slick fast UI in a browser.

              • @SinningStromgald@lemmy.world
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                And you got more space the longer you had the account! Then everyone got the same no matter what. I was sad to loose all that free space.

                • wjrii
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                  IIRC, that was rolled out as a surprise after a few years. People were just like, “WTF, my capacity is getting bigger?”. For a while there, Goggle could do no wrong from a marketing standpoint. That, uhh, changed.

            • Kalkaline
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              31 year ago

              It was ad free which was amazing for a social media site at that time. No banners, no pop ups, just content.

          • dual_sport_dork 🐧🗡️
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            251 year ago

            Gmail was invite only at first probably because Google didn’t want it to grow faster than they could buy hard drives. It gave you a gigabyte of email storage which at the time was huge. I’m certain they did that for technical reasons.

            • ᗪᗩᗰᑎ
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              It gave you a gigabyte of email storage which at the time was huge.

              You’re right, but for those who may not know the details or the impact at the time, Google was offering 500x more storage - at the free tier - than some of the competition - hotmail - who were charging people for just 10 MB of storage. This forced hotmail to increase its free tier to 250 MB and 2 GB for customers paying $20 USD/year.

              Source: https://web.archive.org/web/20230815014711/https://www.cnet.com/tech/services-and-software/hotmail-to-offer-250mb-of-free-storage/

              • wjrii
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                It’s hard to explain what an absolute paradigm shift Gmail was. It was about as drastic a difference as you could have with personal email without altering the core service. Orders of magnitude more storage, completely free to the end user, a responsive and usable web interface, a single unobtrusive 1-line text ad when we were used to at least half a dozen that were often full-size banners or even popups, and a good search tool.

                My wife (then fiancee) got us invites, and it was like Christmas. And all from the company that was way less creepy than Microsoft! I’m sure that part would never change.

              • @GreenMario@lemm.ee
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                61 year ago

                Slow roll until the infrastructure can handle it and a little bit of that “exclusive” feel to it since not everyone can just join immediately.

              • Natanael
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                21 year ago

                Yeah they’re working hard on scaling, they’ve had recurring performance issues but have managed to get it stable again even with higher load now

            • geosocoOP
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              It’s also easier to find and fix bugs with smaller numbers of people, especially performance bugs which can be amplified at scale. So it gives them a lot of time to work through issues over the beta. It also gives them time to build teams around the expanding infrastructure and build processes for monitoring and handling issues as a larger team.

              Plus, these invite only periods start with more tech savy early adopters who more willing to put up with issues, and willing to provide decent bug reports to fix them.

            • well5H1T3
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              01 year ago

              “i am the choosen one!” As if…

              Boy, our servers are ducktaped!

        • @kescusay@lemmy.world
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          421 year ago

          I’m still salty about that. Google+ was fantastic on release. Simple, clean, elegant, and fast. Then they steadily, systematically fucked it up. By the time it was cancelled, it had become unusable.

          • @evatronic@lemm.ee
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            G+'s downfall was they kept it invite-only too long. Demand was there, people wanted in but Google was like, “Nah…”

            By the time it was open-access, everyone had moved on or back to their old social media platforms. It could’ve been great, but Google, in typical Google fashion, got distracted by something shiny and killed it.

            • wjrii
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              The sad thing is, if they’d thought even a tiny bit laterally and leveraged the fact that Google Reader was getting a lot of traction and a core of people were beginning to use its social functions, they could have backdoored themselves into being Digg/Reddit/Etc. and had the social media userbase to take on Facebook organically.

              Instead, they fought the last war (Gmail vs Hotmail), intentionally eroded and then killed Reader, and with G+ they completely fucked up what was a cleaner interface (if not all that special) and a better technological experience, all while they were a brand that was at that time more trusted than their competitors.

              • @kescusay@lemmy.world
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                Yep. Once they screwed up G+, I committed to never becoming dependent on any Google service beyond Drive and Gmail, and only those two because they’re completely untouchable - Google couldn’t break those without having a mass rebellion on its hands.

      • @Tylerdurdon@lemmy.world
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        151 year ago

        So, in the shape of a pyramid? Sounds like a good business model. I wonder if anyone has ever done that before? (yes, it’s a joke)

      • Natanael
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        21 year ago

        Yup. I have a bunch of invites (for sane people only)

      • snowe
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        171 year ago

        lol they didn’t even bother reading the lemmy description. 😂

    • geosocoOP
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      Yes, that’s part of what’s surprising about the number.

    • @Clent@lemmy.world
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      61 year ago

      Yes but I’m sure many recorded invites and didn’t bother. Musk musking TSFKAT ( the-site-formerly-known-as-twitter) was the needed motivation to accept it.

      • Chuckles
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        I didn’t bother and was gonna give it a walk around. Downloaded but can’t access without an invite.

    • @LillyPip@lemmy.ca
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      I’ve been trying to get an invite since June.

      Apparently if you ask, you’re not good enough or some shit.

      • @cypher_greyhat@lemmy.world
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        You’re not missing anything. I eventually got an invite, found that 40% of the content was furry and I deleted my account.

    • @nucleative@lemmy.world
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      Invite only is a fascinating choice for a social network that requires network effect to succeed.

      Gmail is the most famous/successful example but interesting to note that email is a federated network that can interoperate with every other email address too.

      What about this bluesky network?

    • TheSaneWriter
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      Mastadon (and the Fediverse in general, to some extent) has problems with discoverability and the average user finds federation confusing. People tend to either use microblogging to see what’s going on with people they’re interested in or to broadcast their activities to a large group of people, and Mastadon currently doesn’t fit that niche very well.

      • decadentrebel
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        Pretty much this. It’s why I love it for my use case (microblogging journal that only I can see), but it’s definitely not for everyone else.

        It’s why if your average influencer or news consumer wants a Twitter alternative, it’s likely Threads or perhaps BlueSky, not Mastodon.

    • @joenforcer@midwest.social
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      The same reason people aren’t going for Lemmy.

      Aside from the fact that the Fediverse is an incredibly confusing concept to the average user, those same users are entrenched and connected to everyone they already want to be connected to on the same platform. Until they are essentially forced to move, they’ll stay on Twitter. The people on Lemmy and Mastodon right now are a tiny but vocal minority compared to the massive userbases of the platforms they abandoned.

      • @Edgelord_Of_Tomorrow@lemmy.world
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        381 year ago

        Yeah there really needs to be a rethink of how the Fediverse works.

        I don’t want to have to subscribe to 8 different “Games” subs each with under 3000 users.

        It really should be like “topics” more than “sublemmys” (or whatever) where every post on the Fediverse tagged “games” will appear on your feed when you subscribe to the topic.

        The topics still get moderated by the local instance topic moderators and instances can defederate from troubled instances, but discoverability would improve exponentially.

        • @Rambi@lemm.ee
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          21 year ago

          Maybe how it could work is sublemmies could agree to link up and share posts so for example the posts from one games sub would appear in the other games sub and vice versa.

          It seems the limitation with the topics idea is who would decide what the topics are? Would there just be a list of like 20 topics baked into Lemmy and people that create sublemmies would tag their sub with a topic? I think the only limitation with that is there would be so many niche subs that don’t fit cleanly into one topic, or will be drowned out by the big subs in there maybe. Maybe it could work though if anybody could create new topics, then there could be a Fallout for example with the Fallout subs being in that rather than having to be in the games topic and being drowned out

          • @Krauerking@lemy.lol
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            Yeah it sorta needs to be back to hashtags to tag content so that it can all be in a community despite being in different instances and subs. It’s really disjointed and currently the fediverse feels like we went back to AOL chat rooms where it’s a lot of people waiting in their own room for someone to come in and talk to them.

            It doesn’t work and it doesn’t really inspire conversation anymore.

            • @Rambi@lemm.ee
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              Yeah it is like that unfortunately. I mean the larger subs are fine but the niche ones just aren’t working on Lemmy atm and some way of addressing the sub splintering would help a lot. And yeah hashtags would probably be a solid way of addressing it.

      • @seitanic@lemmy.sdf.org
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        Aside from the fact that the Fediverse is an incredibly confusing concept to the average user

        How did the average user ever figure out email?

      • asudox
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        81 year ago

        Was a open source platform run on donations entirely ever be a competition for something huge like Twitter? This is a first afaik.

          • asudox
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            yeah but like yesn’t. bitcoin isn’t a good example imo

            • @locuester@lemmy.zip
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              How so? A decentralized open source platform with no owner which has a 500B market cap and 220 millions users.

              I feel like that’s exactly what we are talking about. I understand the negative sentiment over crypto, but this is a fact.

              Or maybe the difference is that it hasn’t stifled some competitor platform yet. I can agree with that because it’s not a parallel in that it’s competing with nothing.

              • @jasory@programming.dev
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                Do people either make money or think they’ll make money simply by using the Fediverse? One can certainly advertise via guerrilla marketing on a Fediverse platform but it’s far more lucrative to advertise on mainstream social media.

                • @Rambi@lemm.ee
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                  Are you saying brands don’t want to come to the fediverse to market their products? I mean if that’s true that seems like a good thing, and even if it wasn’t I’m sure they would once Lemmy/Mastadon are big enough

    • @Bongles@lemm.ee
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      I’m on there, but I use Twitter and mastodon as a follower, I don’t post. So until most of the 40ish people I follow move I’m stuck with Twitter if I want to see their posts. And I do.

    • @theanon@lemmy.world
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      When someone links me the backend code of mastodan I’ll join. Till then it’s just another Facebook. I’ll stick with my own website tiblur

      • @pomodoro_longbreak@sh.itjust.works
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        Not only is it open, but you can check it out yourself and install right from source if you really want to get under the hood.

        I’ve seen folks out there running a 1-person masto instance, just so they can partake in the fedi from their own fully sovereign platform. Bit extreme for me, but cool that it’s an option. Definitely not just another FB in other words

        EDIT: Oh dang there’s a one-click app on DO even.

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          This is why it’s not being downloaded. It has terrible reviews it’s a 3.5 out of 5. You don’t think it but people care about that.

          I have never tried Mastadon. Normally if a company is good it has great marketing as well as great direction, even if it’s a nonprofit. For instance, federation can never work for growth because it’s like operating a franchise. The owner of Mastadon doesn’t give his franchisees any cut. If he did they would bend over for him to grow their instance. It’s actually a new concept that is pretty smart but not executed well. Think I will copy it for Tiblur.com. Right now Mastodon is just a non profit version of McDonalds which all but ensures instance owners will lose their shirt if something bad happens on their instance and they are sued. Corporate structure is the only way. Just don’t build a shitty company. Also, why isn’t mastodon homie asking for peoples contacts, that’s how any app grows. You can do what FaceBook and Instagram do but just dont be a shit.

          • @PlutoParty@programming.dev
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            What is why it is not being “downloaded”? It seems you don’t actually understand how it works. You realize we are talking on a federated network right now, yeah? You must be trolling.

              • Schadrach
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                Since you appear to be talking about a Mastodon mobile app and not the Mastodon network a fair bit of negative reviews are about many of the mobile apps blocking access to Gab. Gab switched to a Mastodon back end back in 2019 or so and several of the apps started to blacklist using that instance at the app level as a consequence. Usually negative reviews about that will refer to “the largest Mastodon instance”, which Gab actually was by sheer numbers.

                There was even an issue request to hardcode blacklisting Gab into the backend, though they were basically told no in no uncertain terms.

            • @theanon@lemmy.world
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              Oh boy, I’m looking through the code for Mastodon right now. Already located one zero day after reading 300 lines of code. Who wrote this app…

  • @WorldWideLem@lemmy.world
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    I was interested in it but at the end of the day Dorsey got Twitter into its initially mediocre state, and he’s endorsed RFK Jr. as well as Musk’s purchase of Twitter. So should I really expect it to be any better? I’ll keep an eye on it but my expectations aren’t terribly high.

    • @Evilcoleslaw@lemmy.world
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      and he’s endorsed RFK Jr.

      Gross. Yeah Dorsey sucks generally.

      as well as Musk’s purchase of Twitter.

      But I don’t hold this part against him. If some moron came along and offered to drastically overpay for my house, for example, I’d endorse the fuck out of that even if he’s a shitheel.

    • @Cyberflunk@lemmy.world
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      81 year ago

      I signed up just to see the hype, and it’s the same boring Twitter, with less commitment. People just grabbing namespace.

      • @uis@lemmy.world
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        41 year ago

        Who holds WR in EU%? You know, where endgame is getting wrecked by anti-monopoly agency.

    • vortic
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      I agree but I don’t understand why. What motivated him to sink 1/4th of his net worth into Twitter then kill it?

      • LUHG
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        111 year ago

        Knowing this nutter he’s probably doing it so people can’t talk about the crappy Tesla QC.

      • @Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml
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        1. The jet tracker

        2. Twitter is a huge place where leftists organize

        3. Probably wants to pull a reddit and push Trump

        • @uis@lemmy.world
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          1. I wouldn’t say that. It was filled with far-right and some people who like others to suffer and bring to suicide indie game developers.
          • @Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml
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            It’s also used by fascists but there have been a lot of genuine leftist organizing going down deep in the cracks of that hellsite.

      • @Syntha@sh.itjust.works
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        41 year ago

        The lawsuit he was destined to lose. Why do people here so often act like this was his masterplan all along? He fucked around and tried to back out, then Twitter sued him into buying the company. From what I can tell this is just Musk being Musk, reportedly he has surrounded himself with yes-men.

    • @Honytawk@lemmy.zip
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      If that were true, the investors who paid him billions for the take over will want his head on a spike.

    • Shaolin Shrimp
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      11 year ago

      As Twitter is a big PR tool for Ukraine he’s again doing Putin a favour.

  • Kilorat
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    Excuse me, signups on an INVITE ONLY platform?

    • @mr_tyler_durden@lemmy.world
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      It’s Jack Dorsey’s “Twitter but federated this time”, except there is only 1 instance, run by Jack…. But don’t worry, “Trust me bro” it will totally be federated/open.

      Maybe it will be but until it is it’s just as bad as Twitter.

      • @Rambi@lemm.ee
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        So is it going to be part of the fediverse at one point or will it be a separate federation?

        • Wrench Wizard
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          God… I’ve been on the “fediverse” for months and

          A: have no clue what it is

          And

          B: am not even entirely sure I’m on it anymore

          Love Lemmy but lol this is getting confusing, is Mastodon on Lemmy or… just federated or… sheesh I need to search this

          • @jana@leminal.space
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            The fediverse is basically anything that uses some means of connecting to other sites. A lot of them now use ActivityPub, a standard for this kind of thing.

            Mastodon isn’t “on” Lemmy, but they can communicate with each other

          • geosocoOP
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            It doesn’t really matter. If you find value in using it, just keep using it.

        • Amy :3
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          separate federation, they use their own home-grown protocol called ATProto

          • @Rambi@lemm.ee
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            Ahh as an alternative to Activity Pub or whatever it’s called? That’s a shame

            • Amy :3
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              Ahh as an alternative to Activity Pub or whatever it’s called?

              Seems like it

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          That hasn’t been specified, which suggests they’re aiming for the latter.

  • AnonymousLlama
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    Always good to see more people looking into platforms besides Twitter, plenty of great places out there

    • @CosmoNova@feddit.de
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      Until they sell that platform too and you have to grow your follower base somewhere else yet again.

      • Natanael
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        Bluesky has federation in testing in a sandbox open to external developers, already interoperating with 3rd party implementations

        • @uis@lemmy.world
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          has federation

          Hahaha, no. It’s like MTProto in Telegram, but without being honest that it’s centralized.

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            Every single component have 3rd party implementations or an alternative which doesn’t depend on them (standard account DID lookups go through their servers but web DID is fully independent). The options he says nobody will create ALREADY EXISTS

            The protocol literally doesn’t allow them to be gatekeepers.

            • @uis@lemmy.world
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              The protocol literally doesn’t allow them to be gatekeepers.

              Authentication is heavily tied to their servers

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                You can initialize your account with your own DID key using web DID instead of the current (technically placeholder DID) and you won’t be dependent on their servers for authentication. Especially in the federation sandbox that’s available for 3rd parties

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                  From what you say I can approximate how it will go. First perpetual in-dev federation, then once they get enough people, they will say “not enough interest in federation” and stop development or pull the plug completely.

  • @dangblingus@lemmy.world
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    People are so desperate for anything RESEMBLING twitter, that they’ll sign up for a trash service like BS.

    Mastodon undoubtedly has more brand recognition at this point.

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      Honestly, before reading this comment I never noticed that BlueSky shortens to BS, lol

  • nik0
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    I’m so glad people are calling Bluesky out for the trash service it is. I just mastodon outlasts this crap and we get more people on there than bluesky

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    Who is the target audience for BlueSky? BlueSky’s tech isn’t as open or developed as the alternatives though, is it?

    Edit:
    Not sure why I asked that first question, answer’s obvious, so it was more out of frustration I think. Sort of in a similar way towards people moving to Threads or any other corporate social media again after getting screwed before.

    • @funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works
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      it’s invite only, which first makes you think, “oh cool - no spammers!”

      but then you realize you just need one spammer to get in and now they only invite spammers, and control their invites… as a form of spam! Flooding the net with “cheap” invite codes (only $10!) and multiplying.

      • @ALostInquirer@lemm.ee
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        Invite only makes people think no spammers? Have they never been in any space with minimal obstacles to entry like that? Any place people are, there’s going to be someone or some activity you don’t care for.

        Makes me think of folks thinking there will be fewer annoying people in online games with sub fees. 😂

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          Seems pretty easy to control though.

          Once spammer is detected, you just ban them and the account that invited, all the way up a down that invite tree.

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            51 year ago

            And in the process nuke every legitimate user who may have used their codes, great way to build trust in a new platform. You can’t even vet users to see if they are spammers or not because you need an account to view the service.

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              1 year ago

              Wellp, Nintendo intentionally breaks their own games if you pirate their stuff. Not allowing bribes is a simmlar looking situation. “This product is defective the last person who had their hands on it mustve screwed it up somehow.”

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                21 year ago

                Nintendo intentionally breaks their own games if you pirate their stuff.

                I’m not aware of them doing this all that often. In fact, it’s more something that game developers do from time to time, rather than Nintendo specifically. The classic one being when they introduce a bug that only affects the pirated release, then every time they get a report on that bug they know the user pirated their copy.

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                  21 year ago

                  Yeah I’m not sure what exactly they’re referring to. if they’re referring to the N64 games that was the developer Rare who did it, not Nintendo, Nintendo is just the publisher. If it’s related to Switch games then it’s possible they’re referring to Online only games or the many many Piracy-related myths as well as disinformation that plagues the Switch Modding scene to this day.

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        41 year ago

        Invite only is a technique that becomes a hinderance and gimmic after about 100k members.

  • @Smacks@lemmy.world
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    241 year ago

    God I hope he gets gaslit into actually making Twitter a subscription. It would be so funny

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        81 year ago

        It is weird how he’s just completely running it into the ground… I don’t really buy that though because he never actuslly wanted the company and only bought it because a court forced him to. Also I honestly don’t think he’d want to wash 44 big ones down the drain just to own the libs.

        All I can think of is that he’s just… maybe kind of an idiot and has just gotten lucky so far lol? It’s the only thing that fits as far as I can see.

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          31 year ago

          Some have suggested that the purchase was partly to prevent a second Arab spring. Saudi funding and increased cooperation make it a possibility but I’m not sold on any particular idea besides “avoid everything Elon touches.” Why anyone stayed on ragebait bot network: the website is beyond my understanding.