End Of 10 at #FOSDEM!

#KDEEco 's Call To Action against #eWaste driven by Windows

BoF *Sun 2 Feb 14:00* Room H.3242

Global #FreeSoftware campaign to raise awareness of #Windows 10 EoL and how independent software keeps devices in use & out of the landfill!

https://fosdem.org/2025/schedule/event/fosdem-2025-6779-coordinating-a-windows-10-to-linux-upcycling-campaign-across-free-software-communities-worldwide/

Same day just before, learn how #FOSS enables a circular digital economy *11:55-12:05* #Energy #DevRoom H.2214

https://fosdem.org/2025/schedule/event/fosdem-2025-5431-software-licensing-for-a-circular-economy-how-foss-reduces-the-energy-consumption-and-carbon-footprint-of-ict/

#EndOf10 #OptGreen #KDE :kde: #OpenSource #Sustainability #Environment

@kde

  • Angus Mackenzie
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    @be4foss @kde I bought an HP EliteBook G1 second hand for less than £200. It gave me 9 years of good service using Debian Linux and KDE before a keyboard failure prompted its retirement. I now have a Dell Latitude which seems fine so far. There’s plenty of life in many old computers, but I would agree phones seem a harder problem to address.

  • @be4foss @kde 🙄 Until durable #hardware gets back to being made & #FOSS, including for smartphones is made compatible with said durable hardware, FOSS preventing devices entering landfills & thusly helping reduce carbon emissions will more be the realm of a nice dream/goal than a reality.

    • Strit
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      A broken device won’t be running the default OS anyway.

      The point of this is to take all the working hardware that is currently running a soon unsupported version of Windows, which can’t be updated to a supported one because the hardware does not support the newer version, and make it run supported software, so the user does not discard the hardware.

      • pr highly principled invertebrate
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        @Strit The point is that hardware unfit in it’s initial design to last, shouldn’t be passed off as able to do so and that software including the vast majority of #FOSS for over a decade, has been speeding along in pretty close alignment with how fast it changes it’s minimal hardware requirements & thusly it is not significantly if at all delaying those items entering landfills, which makes the overall claim that #FOSS is different in this regard, a lie!

        It isn’t to say that #FOSS & independent builders/engineers don’t have the ability to work together to change this, but thus far, they’ve not done so in a way that’s anything more than proof an obviously workable concept will indeed work!

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          If groups of folks don’t want people pointing out the huge exaggerations in their claims, to the point where most knowing their degree, would consider them lies, then don’t make those claims, be honest & admit the change is small, incremental & that you need more help to achieve a bigger goal you’ve got in mind.

          It isn’t just windows or any other software manufacturer that makes smartphones, laptops & even many desktops these days, land in landfills quickly, it is all of them combined & their not pushing hardware manufacturers into making durable hardware but rather in the opposite direction. Most Indy software isn’t against that overall trend, it’s just on a slower track off that cliff edge.

          The very idea that #FOSS now in what individuals use it for, is sizably delaying devices entering landfills is a bad joke overall. Either people get big tech things & keep the software they basically came with, including os, until they junk them or they pretty quickly convert them into Open Source software/operating system devices, they don’t go “oops windows/iOS/apple is near/at collapsing on my device but switching to open source is going to make it last a little bit longer, so I’m going to learn all these new systems to get that bit”.🙄

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            Might FOSS & Indy software have grown enough so that in carbon emissions/footprint to water in the world’s oceans terms, they’ve removed a 1 gallon plastic bucket of water a year from said oceans, it’s possible, but a human baby eye droppers worth is more likely, while big tech pours in thousands of gallons of water back, per day…which is why such claims amount to #GreenWashing not real progress…and they’re definitely not a rationale to hold a conference, unless it’s to support the entire mess of speeding along planned obsolescence in the tech sphere.

              • If the angle was, how FOSS can & was reducing electric need & thusly emissions by it not needing to be updated as frequently online &/or it blocked all tracking & thusly the transmission of data was the reduction - then I’d hold that as valid at least with a huge chunk of what I’ve seen in #FOSS — and exploring how that can be expanded would definitely be interesting, but until FOSS partners in a serious & sizable way with engineers & builders of #hardware, it isn’t going to reduce the #CarbonFootprint of said hardware that’s now deliberately designed to break quickly & easily.