• @nahostdeutschland@feddit.org
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      22610 months ago

      Let’s be honest: Everything that might be “worse” or “annoying” in Firefox for someone is not relevant in comparison to “no working adblocker available”. A browser without adblock is unusable

      • @P1nkman@lemmy.world
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        5810 months ago

        True, but if an adblocker no longer works on a specific browser, change your browser! I started using Netscape back in '94, and lost count on how many browsers I’ve tested and used in the past… Holy shit, 30+ years!!

        • @Sturgist@lemmy.ca
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          3110 months ago

          30+ years!

          …fuck off, '94 wasn’t 30… counts on fingers several times

          …Shit…

          • @P1nkman@lemmy.world
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            1210 months ago

            I know… Jurassic Park is 33 years this year. It would be like watching a movie from the 60’ when it was released.

            We’re old, friend.

          • @Teal@lemm.ee
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            310 months ago

            It doesn’t sound right but it is. I think in ‘94 I was using Juno for email and internet. Shortly after that it was time to actually use one of the many AOL trial discs for service instead of a mini frisbee/ninja star.

            Modem sounds, chat rooms, you’ve got mail. What a time to live!

            • @Sturgist@lemmy.ca
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              310 months ago

              Fuck. I got free internet for almost 5 years. So many AOL discs. 01, 02? Friend’s dad had a T1 connection put into their house for his work. The difference between T1 and the 56k I had at home? At home walk out the room, have a smoke, maybe ⅔ a boob loaded. At buddy’s house, that’s when I realised that the internet had the potential to change everything. Whole boob before you could even stand up.

              Kids these days. No appreciation for how much struggle it used to be. Everything just. Just there. No bork the only computer in the house because boob.exe.

        • @bdonvr@thelemmy.club
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          3110 months ago

          In the past 10 years it’s pretty much just been Firefox, Safari, Explorer/Edge, and Chrome. 99% of browsers are just skinned Chrome. Even Edge now. Opera’s engine died in 2013.

          • @P1nkman@lemmy.world
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            3310 months ago

            99% if browsers are just skinned Chrome.

            Yup. Hence, the reason I originally suggested to use Firefox, only because it’s not built on Chromium.

            • @AJ1@lemmy.ca
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              310 months ago

              Hence, the reason I originally suggested to use Firefox

              Just FYI, the word “hence” literally means “for this reason”. So you just said “for this reason the reason” lol.

              • zewm
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                1210 months ago

                Chill dude, I’m just going to the ATM machine to put in my PIN number to take out some money. 🤙

            • @Bourff@lemmy.world
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              1910 months ago

              Chrome forked Webkit in 2012 to create Blink. It is reasonable to assume they have somewhat diverged since.

              • @hddsx@lemmy.ca
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                210 months ago

                Man I haven’t been around that long but I feel like some of my knowledge is outdated and I have to start with “a long time ago in a galaxy far far away” because I stopped paying attention

              • @Monomate@lemm.ee
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                010 months ago

                That’s also hugely in part because Apple develops Webkit at a snails pace. Some say they gimp their own rendring engine so that it isn’t competitive with native applications from the App Store. This way, there’s less incentive for developers to make web-apps to avoid the 30% app store tax.

        • katy ✨
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          I use Palemoon for the nostalgia but also because of the best theme around, Moonscape

          Netscape will forever be my number one.

        • @imvii@lemmy.ca
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          210 months ago

          Mosaic was awesome. Netscape 1 was pretty cool, but Netscape 2 and animated gifs… zowie! That was a day to remember.

      • @JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works
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        110 months ago

        I haven’t actually found anything that doesn’t work on Firefox on my personal computer. At work we also use Firefox, and some things don’t work on it, but some things don’t work on chrome or edge either, it’s a hodge poge.

    • kat
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      -1110 months ago

      Main reason I don’t is cuz:

      https://grapheneos.org/usage

      Avoid Gecko-based browsers like Firefox as they’re currently much more vulnerable to exploitation and inherently add a huge amount of attack surface. Gecko doesn’t have a WebView implementation (GeckoView is not a WebView implementation), so it has to be used alongside the Chromium-based WebView rather than instead of Chromium, which means having the remote attack surface of two separate browser engines instead of only one. Firefox / Gecko also bypass or cripple a fair bit of the upstream and GrapheneOS hardening work for apps. Worst of all, Firefox does not have internal sandboxing on Android. This is despite the fact that Chromium semantic sandbox layer on Android is implemented via the OS isolatedProcess feature, which is a very easy to use boolean property for app service processes to provide strong isolation with only the ability to communicate with the app running them via the standard service API. Even in the desktop version, Firefox’s sandbox is still substantially weaker (especially on Linux) and lacks full support for isolating sites from each other rather than only containing content as a whole. The sandbox has been gradually improving on the desktop but it isn’t happening for their Android browser yet.

      • ferret
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        1010 months ago

        This only applies to android, not desktop use, and you couldn’t use uBlock on mobile chrome anyway so it is simply not relevant.

        • kat
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          -210 months ago

          Other security implications are stilp valid.

          • @Rogue@feddit.uk
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            310 months ago

            They’re completely irrelevant to the average person.

            If you want absolute perfection then sure, stick with Chrome but implying Firefox on GrapheneOS is insecure is misinformation.

      • @Monomate@lemm.ee
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        I use Firefox as my main browser on Android, and all apps that invoke a WebView do so using Firefox’s rendering engine, with uBlock Origin and Dark Reader working seamlessly. So, maybe this info about Firefox for Android lacking WebView support is outdated?

        Exemple after clicking a link on Twitter/X:

        • redjard
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          -110 months ago

          That’s not a webview, it’s a separate api with fewer abilities. Custom tabs I believe.
          You can see for example that it always opens as a fullscreen overlay in your app and that it always has that bottom or in your case top bar.