I have a KIA, it is decent but I would love more freedom ans I sont trust that access will remain free. VW is paid now.

I am in europe and looking to buy in2027.

  • Lka1988
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    Do not base one of the most expensive purchases of your life around a single application.

    My opinion - since you’re running HA, I assume you like having control over your data. Any vehicle with a connection to the manufacturer is absolutely sucking up your data (everything you do in and to the car), and selling it to insurance providers.

    Don’t lean on the GDPR to protect you here. Your data is not safe in a connected car. Buy used.

    • @Squizzy@lemmy.worldOP
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      32 days ago

      Yeah I’m not, I have a number of options and this is a point of consideration.

      All cars are required to have a sim since 2016, I wish they didnt have manufacturer access but they do. I thought maybe I would get someone pointing out how to get access locally

      • Lka1988
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        12 days ago

        I guess we got lucky with our 2015 Highlander 😅

        • @Squizzy@lemmy.worldOP
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          11 day ago

          Yeah, tbh I want to decouple from tech providers completely and part of that would be enabling smart features to work locally in the car or back to a home server. I wish it were possible, currently you cant even get a FOSS alternative to apple or android auto

          • Lka1988
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            11 day ago

            Yeah, it sucks. I would love a FOSS alternative for AA.

            • @Squizzy@lemmy.worldOP
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              119 hours ago

              The duopoly prevents it. In theory it should be simple to plug something other in and use it but the manufscturers dont allow for it.

              Maps, music, calls and messages. None of this needs to be google and apple.

    • walden
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      23 days ago

      I agree. Do not pick a brand based on a cloud service that’s subject to change.

      My car is not connected to HA because I never created a login for it. I even went through the process to disable data transmission from the vehicle to Subaru.