The Cooper Davis Act would force tech companies to report suspected drug activity to the government. Experts say it would be a disaster for digital privacy.

  • @IntoDaLagoon@lemmygrad.ml
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    I love living in the freedom country, not like those other, nonfreedom countries where shady unnacountable secret police organizations spy on you all the time.

  • @markr@lemmy.world
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    Fucking Jeanne Shaheen. I’m from NH, I’ve unfortunately had to vote for her repeatedly. She is going to go to her grave an unrepentant drug warrior. I absolutely loathe the Clinton generation of neolib Democrats, they cannot die off fast enough.

  • @gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works
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    I’ll just leave this here

    Edit: I misinterpreted - I thought this was focused on ISPs and identifying customers that go to sketchy marketplace sites through inspection of DNS logs. If you’re buying drugs on Facebook market place or something like that and are not expecting to get caught… have fun in prison, I guess? It’s Meta. You don’t have privacy on their products. If you do sketchy shit on any of their platforms, you should expect to get caught.

  • @Raphael@lemmy.world
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    Combating drugs is good, spying is not good, you need a very transparent law that tackles the issue in a smart way.

    EDIT: Why the downvotes? Is this a pro-drugs community?

    • @gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works
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      Because the war on drugs was lost before our government (or any government) even started fighting it.

      The DEA is neither necessary or helpful. Legalizing and regulating drugs - and yes, I do mean all drugs - would do far more to improve safety for people who want to, for one reason or another, use drugs (and “drugs” absolutely includes alcohol - it’s a substance that affects your mental state when consumed).

      Or, you know, we could actually correct the root cause, which is wealth inequality, general despair over much of what’s happening in the world these days, and endemic poverty and homelessness. But that wouldn’t be profitable, and supply-side Jesus wouldn’t like that.

    • @_number8_@lemmy.world
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      combatting drugs is bad. it leads to a black market and unreliable product, resulting in overdoses & deaths

        • @PeterPoopshit@sh.itjust.works
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          Funny how alcohol addicts are allowed to participate in society normally though while no one in any high paying job is allowed to smoke a joint.

          • 🔻-_AnoN_-🔻
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            I know lots of alcoholics that still show up to work and contribute to society everyday

          • @Raphael@lemmy.world
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            Alcohol, cigars and then… cocaine, LSD, crack? Are you honestly making this comparison?

            Could you look someone in the eye and tell that cocaine and tobacco are the same thing?

            • @markr@lemmy.world
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              • alcohol deaths per year: 140,000
              • tobacco deaths per year: 480,000
              • cocaine deaths per year: 15,000 (including crack)
              • opioid deaths per year: 68,000
              • LSD deaths per year: 0
              • cannabis deaths per year: 0

              Our drug war is a fucking farce. It is, and always has been, a fascist culture war.

              • @Raphael@lemmy.world
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                Now we’re talking, I like to see numbers and data. You’re clearly different from the others here.

                Now go a biiit further and check usage statistics for alcohol, cocaine and opioids. Is it the same number of people using all three?

            • @Version@feddit.de
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              I am not saying crack or other drugs are harmless, but man, have you ever seen an alcohol addict? It completely destroys your body, mind and family (which you like to mention when it comes to other drugs). You can absolutely compare it to crack.

              • @Raphael@lemmy.world
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                I see, so you’re arguing we must ban both alcohol and drugs? You bring a hard bargain, I’m interested in the connotations of this.

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            Want to see a video of how someone looks like after using psychedelic drugs for some time? Will you still make this comparison afterwards?

            If you people establish that banning alcohol is a absolute requirement for banning cruel drugs that destroy entire families, so be it.

            EDT: Downvoted in 20 seconds.

            • ???
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              Look, you’d have to be both purposefully oblivious and living under a rock to not have a notion of what drunk people look like and the research done on the health risks of it, and all the addiction and alcoholism… Like, give me a fucking break.

              Edit: I’m saying this to say that humans have accepted the risk associates with alcohol (not saying not to regulate it) and it should equally allow the same for drugs. The only difference is that some drugs are plain out less harmful than alcohol.

    • ???
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      Why, is this an anti-drug community?

    • @markr@lemmy.world
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      62 years ago

      It is downvoted because you appear to think that more drug laws are the way to address the opiate addiction public health crisis.

      • @Raphael@lemmy.world
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        crisis

        Why is it a crisis? I thought you believed drugs were good!! Isn’t it almost an utopic situation with all the opiate addicts around? Is this not what you were looking for?

          • @Raphael@lemmy.world
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            Oh, are you not a pro-drugs individual? I’m being chased by those who defend drug abuse and a lawless society, sorry if I mistook you for one of the evil-doers.

            • @markr@lemmy.world
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              Eh no, you are repeatedly and dishonestly conflating ‘it’s a public health problem not a criminal justice problem’ with ‘I love all the drugs’. I think I’m done. Arguing with clowns is pointless.

              • @Raphael@lemmy.world
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                You either defend drugs or you oppose them. Can’t look all hipster and defend strict control at the same time.

    • @calabast@lemm.ee
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      Down votes are because studies have shown that programs like DARE and the “war on drugs” didn’t really make drugs go away, and that we need better solutions that address quality of life and mental health issues to keep people from turning to drugs in the first place. Also, saying we need to “combat” drugs is very adversarial, and reinforces the boogie man of “evil drug users”, which helps the passage of overly powerful laws, and often make it easier to exploit minorities.

      I also think the simplistic “[let’s just] tackle the issue in a smart way” might rub people the wrong way, like “oh, well why didn’t we think of that?”

      EDIT: Your edit of “people don’t agree with me, I guess that means they love drugs” is very assumptive, and close minded.

      • @Raphael@lemmy.world
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        and that we need better solutions that address quality of life and mental health issues to keep people from turning to drugs in the first place.

        You’re almost there, one more step and you’ll realize the true enemy is capitalism. Some of the weaker drugs can be legalized as long as they’re kept in strict control.