If lemmy had user-defined filters, I’d use them. Right now I’m downvoting the stuff, but there’s already a community for musk-related stuff: !EnoughMuskSpam@kbin.social

  • Pons_Aelius
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    1301 year ago

    Yes!

    Please yes.

    I’m tired of seeing the same story of that chode in six or seven different communities.

  • BolexForSoup
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    Musk has already been banned as a topic on tech communities in 4 instances I’ve seen personally. I get folks are tired of him and I find him insufferable, but he is often relevant (unfortunately) to current events, so I don’t think wholesale bans of him are a good idea. There are plenty of topics I find annoying, but I don’t tell people to ban the topic from the community just for my personal preference.

    Like I think trump is a cringe inducing piece of shit and don’t enjoy seeing him everywhere. I’d love a filter, I don’t expect communities to ban him as a topic.

    • @DogMuffins@discuss.tchncs.de
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      301 year ago

      Yeah but relevant to current tech events? Not that often.

      It’s complicated I guess.

      Musk offering starlink access to gaza is tech news, him changing subscription prices for xitter is not.

      I guess I just mean that a happening is not “tech” by virtue of musk saying it.

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        He owns starlink, Twitter, Tesla, and SpaceX. Whether we like it or not all of these have huge bearings on their respective industries.

        And before people started hating musk, again rightfully so I’m embarrassed I ever liked him, you couldn’t go a day without something about SpaceX and people getting all excited. This is purely about the person, not the relevance of the topics.

        If y’all could somehow come up with a nuanced soft ban on “his personal life“ and politics or whatever, I guess that’s a decent compromise? But that just sounds tedious and people will bicker. And also his politics unfortunately have an impact on how Twitter is run, so you would have to find ways to separate those things out. It’s just seems kind of needless.

        I mean imagine if we couldn’t spread the word/learn of what he was doing with his starlink satellites and Ukraine/Russia. That stuff is really important.

        • @DogMuffins@discuss.tchncs.de
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          91 year ago

          The nuanced soft ban you’re talking about is just the topic of the community.

          When musk does something tech related that’s tech. When he does something that’s not tech related that’s off topic.

          Twitter is a social media website it’s not tech.

  • Pennomi
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    381 year ago

    I agree, but only restrict the news if it mentions Musk, not just one of his companies. For example, SpaceX does interesting stuff, and to be honest operates mostly independently of him these days.

    Technology is technology, no matter which asshole owns the company.

  • @MrJameGumb@lemmy.world
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    301 year ago

    Breaking News: Elon Musk announces new X laundry service!

    “It’s the laundry service of the future! Only requires a recurring subscription of $49.99! (shipping fees not included) Mail us your laundry!!!”

    • grrk
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      61 year ago

      They’ll use spaceX drones instead of mail

      • @MrJameGumb@lemmy.world
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        71 year ago

        You can get drone service as an add on for only an additional $89.99 a month! Don’t be left in the past! Start your X laundry service today! IT’S THE LAUNDRY OF THE FUTURE! PAY ME NOW YOU PEONS!!!

  • @1984@lemmy.today
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    241 year ago

    I don’t think content should be banned on Lemmy just because some people are tired of it. But each instance can have its own rules of course.

  • BoofStroke
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    231 year ago

    Yes please. None of those have anything to do with technology. I want to see some PM-esque posts in here.

  • @lobut@lemmy.ca
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    191 year ago

    I think if it’s actually related to tech it’s fine. For example, I read an article from DHH talking about how Musk’s strategy has saved money by moving from Cloud to on-prem and doing it cut massive costs.

    I think that’d be okay?

    • @hperrin@lemmy.world
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      141 year ago

      That’s not “musk’s strategy” though. That’s just common knowledge. If you change your own brakes, it’s cheaper than at the dealership. If you run your own servers, it’s cheaper than in the cloud. The reason people choose the cloud is either they don’t want to, or can’t, run their own server farm.

      • If you run your own servers, it’s cheaper than in the cloud. The reason people choose the cloud is either they don’t want to, or can’t, run their own server farm.

        Generally speaking, if it wasn’t cheaper for them to use the cloud, they probably wouldn’t. Owning infrastructure comes with costs that amortize better at scale. If infrastructure is not a big cost in serving your customers, then it’s probably cheaper to rent.

        • @hperrin@lemmy.world
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          There are some costs that are cheaper when you go to the cloud because of scale. Things like bandwidth, redundancy, and physical security. But they are massively offset by how expensive renting the hardware is. I can rent a server for $500/month that I could build for $3,000-$4,000. That’s 6-8 months before I’m in the red with the cloud. Think about those costs over one server’s lifetime (roughly 5 years, depending on your needs). That’s $26,000 over 5 years, or $5,200 per year extra, for one server. If your company is using 10 servers (assuming your costs scale linearly at this point), that’s $52,000 per year, rather than just running a couple fiber lines into your office. And that’s a small company.

          So yeah, it’s more expensive to go with the cloud, almost always. But yes, the cloud gives you benefits. This is pretty common knowledge in the industry, and musk didn’t come up with the idea of bringing services on-site.

          • @xthexder@l.sw0.com
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            Something to add, since I colocate my own hardware in a datacenter: Just the cost of operating a server is non-trivial too. I pay $120/month for just 2U, 1gbps networking, and power usage (600W peak usage), providing my own hardware. Things get a lot cheaper if you can rent a whole rack space though. It’s absolutely been worth it though, because to rent a similar specced server, it could easily be $1k/month.

          • That $52000/year isn’t enough to pay for even a single full time IT person. So now you’re probably either spending dev time on server admin (which is wasteful of dev salary, and it’s a subject they aren’t experts in, so you’re literally paying more for worse results), or outsourcing to an entity that hires the cheapest employees it can.

            Oooor, use a cloud provider. And if you’re a small company, you can probably get away with cheaper shared hosting.

            • @hperrin@lemmy.world
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              Oh I was talking about renting a VPS, not managed services. Managed services are much more expensive.

              I just checked Digital Ocean’s pricing, and the server I was thinking of that’s about $500/month is $900/month for managed MySQL. That’s $107,400 extra per year if you want managed services.

              And again, this is for a small company that only needs 10 servers. If we’re talking about something more like 5,000 servers, those cloud costs will be absolutely enormous.

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          How about Cloud (someone else’s computers) vs. Colo/Data Center (someone else’s cooling and UPS/Generators Your computers) - the cost of running a data center correctly is huge. This is not even counting the 24/7 availability of help or security on the site.

          Of course, if you can get away with a 2 servers in a single rack more power to ya.

      • @lobut@lemmy.ca
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        61 year ago

        Ah you broke my heart. Clear indication that I’m drifting more into management every day :(

    • @ours@lemmy.world
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      71 year ago

      I love to watch expensive garbage burn.

      Watching Twitter burn to the ground along with Musk’s reputation is highly entertainment.

      • Kumatomic
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        31 year ago

        Undeserved reputation built on actually intelligent people that worked for him.

    • @ezchili@iusearchlinux.fyi
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      01 year ago

      There’s already EnoughMuskSpam fully dedicated to musk antics, I feel like this place could benefit from closing off Bozo so the community can develop different posting habits

  • Beej Jorgensen
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    131 year ago

    Holy cow, this sounds like a moderation nightmare–glad I don’t have to do it! There’s no way you’re going to get through it without someone complaining about it.

    In my mind, this is definitely something that individuals should address with blocks and filters. If those filters don’t exist, they should be written.

    • @onlinepersona@programming.devOP
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      51 year ago

      Could you add some rules? You could copy the ones here and just add 5. No musk spam! Use [!EnoughMuskSpam@kbin.social](https://kbin.social/m/EnoughMuskSpam) for that

    • @Kethal@lemmy.world
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      Could you elaborate on this? Is this new community restricting specifically mentions of Musk, or is there a broader difference? In particular, there are a lot of people claiming that Twitter is a tech company and that it belongs in tech news. Is that also the view of this new community or do you consider Twitter a social media company, with only tangential and generally not newsworthy actions related to technology?