They exchanged messages just before the subreddit r/WhitePeopleofTwitter was given a temporary ban for 72 hours
Man he’s such a little fucking snowflake isn’t he?
Which one, (fuck) spez or the Nazi saluting trust fund baby?
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¿Porque los dos?
Yes
That is a very good question.
I guess even r/whitepeopletwitter wasn’t white enough for Musk.
So much so that he’s a goddamn puddle at this point
Reddit died June 2023
I don’t know why people are still playing with the corpse
I agree and haven’t returned but lemmy hasn’t hit critical mass yet… Like I don’t recall a post with over a hundred replies. Reddit used to have over a thousand on every reply on the first page.
How many of those thousands are actual good comments though? Last time I was there, I swear the majority of comments were from bots reposting the same comments that were in previous threads. It felt peak dead-internet.
This is often overlooked. The conversations are great on the niche or smaller communities available on reddit and the experience is great. But for the most part, frontpage and every other sub has been taken over by repost bots or repeated jokes or politics.
It is worse, I was convinced I was having discussions with AI multiple times. It seemed to me that they were using some subs for AI to post content and then interact with human and AI. It is another laboratory to train their AI.
I used to help out in r/Botdefense
The amount of them was ridiculous and only because the makers made another bot to report them to us (with stats), could we even keep up. That was before greedy piggy spez shut down API access and now? Ewww
Same complaint. Reddit posts with 100s or 1000s of replies were mostly a few good comments drowning in spam.
Won’t the same happen to Lemmy when it gains enough traction?
I think the lack of profile-wide “karma” is one benefit, so there’s not as much incentive to farm imaginary internet points and such with the same old zingers. Who knows, but hopefully not.
There are apps which display the user karma though.
But that just means that viewing it is opt-in rather than default. Since most people probably won’t bother to install those apps, the farmed karma won’t be worth squat.
Hard agree. I didn’t realize how awful this felt in practice and how much I genuinely missed conversations until Lemmy.
Every popular thread I got into the habit of ignoring the top comments because I’ve seen them 1000 before. Like being forced to watch the most unfunny 90’s sitcom.
I realize now that I would only comment on other comments— deep in comment chains.
Coming to Lemmy felt like the difference between trying to fish a pre-packaged snack out of a vending machine (Reddit) verses sitting down for a high quality all you can eat brunch (Lemmy).
I’ve never considered that a limitation.
You only need one other person in addition to yourself, for a good discussion.
If anything, here I’m finding I actually get replies, because my comment didn’t drown among a hundred others.
You only need one other person in addition to yourself for a good discussion
I never really thought of it like this despite it being obvious. Very well said
Might be your settings. When I flip the front page to “Active” most of the posts have hundreds of comments (though I prefer setting it to “Top Six Hours”).
I like “Hot” and “Top Six Hours” myself. “Scaled” and “New” aren’t bad if you’re looking for more content.
I also sort by top six hours but subs related to my profession or religious traditions both get too much outside noise from folks who view posts by ‘all’ and feel welcome to flood subs with comments contrary to the intent of the sub. Active moderation could help but there’s just not good moderation under most subs.
Literally the next post under this one, sorting by 1d top posts, has 147 comments
Like 6 good ones and a bunch of the same tired comments about poop knives, broken arms, same, this.
Here, at least most of the answers are real human beings trying to contribute to a conversation.
Reminds me of the scene in 300 when he asks how many warriors they brought. We brought real comments.
You obviously weren’t here for the guy who didn’t want to poop for days. There were a LOT of replies on that one.
Link?
I wish i could, but this was 2 years ago, and once the post blew up huge, OP deleted it. Some Lemmy historian may have a copy, but alas, i do not.
Basically, OP posted a question where they said they didn’t want to poop during the upcoming weekend, and then asked how they could keep from pooping for three days. This was shortly after the Reddit API exodus.
The comments were very helpful, reasoned, and…Nah, im just kidding, they pretty much went the way you would expect, with lots of wild speculation about why OP didn’t want to poop for three days, and lots of “helpful” suggestions about how to not poop for three days.
Strangely though, i think the post did a lot of good, as it showed a lot of ex-redditors that Lemmy could work as a reddit replacement, and be just as goofy as the original.
Here’s an archive link 7 days later, with 800+ replies
Tbh I’ve decided I can live with less and less of this. I’ll never go back to the giant ad covered spaces. But if this doesn’t pickup or even dies, meh
I mean, does it really matter? Are you going to read 100 responses on a single post? I feel from Reddit that the larger communities get the shittier they get. More people = smaller intersection of common ground, which leads to dull content and repeating platitudes.
This post has 278 comments
Legitimately who cares though? You‘re not in it for the money with Reddit either.
Same, once they violated certain principles, it was clear the site was dead. We need to do our best to build lemmy into something. It’ll take years.
Some people are just into that kind of thing.
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I feel like as an A’s fan. The same thing happened to Reddit. Owners turned it into a shit hole.
As a fellow A’s fan I completely agree this analogy.
Because they have a monopoly on old and especially niche knowledge/communities (also new niche knowledge/communities). As much as I hate it, that’s why I personally still have to use reddit sometimes.
IMO, as much as I dislike Reddit, moderation is terrible here and there’s some niche subs that cannot exist here because of the lack of moderation.
Luigi
Just goes to show how easy it is to get these people upset.
Just call them out
Call them often
Call them out every day
Never stop calling them out … you’ll know they’re listening when someone either tells you or forces you to stop.
Nazis and authoritarians every single one of them.
Is this the “free speech” everyone in 'Murica is talking 'bout?
Musk bought twitter because he wanted free speech…
Ironic huh
Nah, he wanted to modify what was being said. He blocked and oppressed views he didn’t like. It was never free speech. It was always oppression.
I don’t even think he new the possibilities of what he can do with Twitter before he bought it. He bought it and after that he needed something to do with this shit pile and found the solution in manipulation and illegal election donation
I think he had to enter into agreements about content in order to get financing from the Saudis and Russians.
Musk bought Twitter because he fucked around trying to manipulate the stock price and accidentally made an agreement he couldn’t back out of. He tried. He failed. He was forced to buy it according to the terms he previously specified.
I hate my conspiricy theory minded family but if someone told me they had proof Musk expressly bought Twitter to get right wing power in America and used the buyer’s remorse stock price manipulation attempt gone south as a cover story?
I’d believe it.
- He’s dumber than you give him credit for
- What is the point of the supposed cover story? To cover from who, about what? He’s literally paying people to vote, again. Next to that, buying a social media to influence it almost sounds democratic.
The reason that conspiracy theory is appealing is the same for all conspiracy theories; it’s more comforting to think the powerful have a clever masterful evil plan than the sad reality that we’re all making it up as we go, even the literal Nazis.
Once you are there, start wondering if Trump is really that mad or if they are implementing an old Nixon plan.
He did. Free speech for bigots that is.
Well, wanted to own a mechanism of free speech so he could control it.
Not ironic when you realize it’s this but literally. He wants to own all speech.
Honestly, say something useful or keep it to yourself, OK? These lil ‘gotcha’ comments do nothing but take up space and make you feel a misplaced sense of having done something (when you’ve in fact, done nothing).
Stuff like this comment, the mango Mussolini comments, the evil Cheeto comments, it all just fucking does nothing while still making people feel like they’re being transgressive. You’re not. It diverts energy from doing/talking about stuff that affects real change.
That’s more or less why I left reddit and came to lemmy.
This is in fact my very first post here. :)
Same. Just created my account
I think we chose well.
Welcome fellow former redditor!
I’ve been here for about a month, switching bettween this and Reddit, while still mostly using Reddit. This made me leave Reddit completely. This and getting banned for 3 days for upvoting a comment was the final straw.
Similar final straw for me.
I had wrote an anti putin thing under a post of Selenskyj where he stated putin will soon die, I confirmed that I hope so too and got like 400 upvotes and a hour or two later got deleted and a 3 day ban.
Since democracy is literally built on murdering fascists and monarchs (or just authoritarians in generel), it seems pretty wild to me that it’s seen as a radical belief that they should die. If we’re forced to tolerate leaders whose claim to power is based on supressing and murdering dissidents in an effort to quash democratic thought, what in the actual fuck are we supposed to do to?
I’m surprised that the loss of 3rd party apps almost 2 years ago wasn’t the final straw for y’all, but either way I’m glad you finally made it here.
That’s when I made the switch. I can’t believe it’s been that long already.
Yeah that was when I finally left too. I just didn’t think it was worth it if I had to use the website or their crappy app
In over 2 decades of internet, i can safely say banning users for upvoting things is the most ridiculous thing i’ve ever seen a discussion board do. Just remove upvotes at this point and have the feed curated by Lord Muskrat.
Unlike others, i didn’t get banned from Reddit, i just wanted to get a head-start learning this site, because Reddit is on the way to become X2.
Welcome, I am a former redditor myself.
I’m brand new as well and hopeful but wow the smaller forums here need some love. The topic variety is small to the point where maybe straight up bot cloning subreddits here where posts on Reddit just get reposted to their Lemmy equivalent to kick start refugees feeling at home. Plus if there’s basically cross platform discussion posts it gives ground for users of existing subreddits to migrate.
I got here because they killed Apollo 🫶🏻 never forget
I use Voyager now for lemmy
Welcome, fellow ex redditor.
Thanks :)
same!
Welcome to the party!
Welcome friend!!
Yep, Reddit pushed me this way too, but I’m much happier. Welcome!
Welcome here!
One more reason to use Lemmy.
This story compelled me to finally commit to using Lemmy.
Grab some beans, make yourself at home.
Beans?
It’s kinda lemmy lore I guess.
Beans was a wave of shitposts from about 16 months ago where poeple kept posting a bunch of beans in various forms and the whole feed was mostly beans.You’ll also stumble upon the “3 days no poop” thing where someone asked a question in asklemmy I think about how to avoid shitting for 3 days.
I think they later deleted their account, but they were very mysterious about why and people genuinely came with ideas for them and it snowballed into its own thing.Unrelated, but similar to the poop knife, if only in the inside joke / lore kinda thing.
Been on lemmy for two years and didnt see any of that
Now you have.
Oooh these. Yeah no now i remember
Hell yeah. Welcome!
Thank you, I’m glad to be here! 😁
Thank you for not immediately going to “world”, just because it has the most users.
I got banned from r/comics for calling out US imperialism. Got called a Russian propagandist 😵 And now here I am :)
I got banned from Reddit because I made a suggestion on what should happen to a violent bull terrier dog that attacked a family member
And they had a child
No free speech on Reddit
I think they have people move in to moderator roles that can choose to ban people who disagree with their opinions
I got a lifetime IP ban on Reddit for saying “Fuck Elon Musk all the way to hell” - so fuck Reddit, fuck DOGE, and especially fuck Elon.
I look at Reddit like I look at Facebook. Both are trash and have outlived their use. If you have a profile on either one, delete it or at least delete the app.
Reddit has been a an archive of some of the greatest collective minds of humanity. Besides the general algorithm up voting bots hogwash, there have been some really good subreddits with excellent information from learned professionals on topics. it I wish it was preserved rather than deleted. The AskHistorians is one of my favourite professional vetted and clean subreddits, lots of academic discussions there.
But all things have a Golden Era, and then it’s enshittified and fades away. As Lemmy will be one day too.
Yeah, and try as we might, we haven’t been able to replicate its biggest selling point. It was unfortunately also its greatest vulnerability regarding the corporatetake over.
It was a central location from which thousands of large, niche communities could be found.
Lemmy is great, but the decentralized nature of it also fragments small communities and makes it hard for them to launch. I was super active of the Scuba subreddit, but on Lemmy, there are like 8 scuba communities spread across the instances, but they’re all so small there’s no activity on them, and that fragmentation makes it difficult for one to reach the necessary critical mass to become active.
I can likely fall into some version of a category of learned professional. IMO, it’s fine, many of us have made our migration to Lemmy. Reddit can burn.
A bit weird that there isn’t the same cultivation of professionalism though. I feel I don’t see much of it here like there was on Reddit. Makes me wonder if Reddit worked behind the scenes to create it
Narrator: they didn’t.
I think there probably did.
I don’t disagree necessarily but this is a very euphoric way to phrase it
Gonna hijack your comment to shill:
“The only platform that allows you to automatically clean up your old posts from services like Twitter, Reddit, Facebook, Discord, and more, all in one place.”
Shadow banned for making a very popular post about how to make DIY Luigi Mangione prayer candles using dollar tree candles, printer and a glue stick on witches vs patriarchy
That…should be intolerable for redditors, you’d think this would finally make them leave.
I tested just writing “Luigi” and was banned for a day. I deleted my 10+ years account with over 200k karma. I was so attached to that profile, but I promptly deleted it after being banned. Fuck these billionaires telling us what’s ok to say.
Not the karma 😱 Bunch of weirdos
I think they were using the karma count to show how much they utilized the platform, emphasizing how big the gesture of deleting their account was.
When I was deep in the Reddit hole I was obsessed with getting upvotes and avoiding downvotes. It was a dopamine hit. When I moved to Lemmy I joined an instance that doesn’t allow or show downvotes, and it has been a breath of fresh air.
When I hear of a Redditor be like this I yearn to do things…
How much bullying at school must have taken place for someone to… no actually I remember there were people at school like this and this was the reason they were bullied in the first placeAbsolute losership of the highest order
Words cannot describe how subhuman Redditors are
Orange sludge not even fit to lubricate the smallest gears of the society.
Well anyway, one has to enjoy the great sunny weather today with bbq and sun baths on my summer property so that’s about the amount of attention this topic deserves.
The fuck is wrong with you? Karma is designed to be addictive and make you want to make content for reddit. It’s why the amount of karma per post is capped so hard
Well then have some modicum of self control and respect and do not fall straight into their stuff.
Besides, it’s not even about karma you see. It’s just that these “people” if you can call them that, are most opinionated yet most moronic units you could ever come across.
No sympathy for Redditors and their precious accounts
“Just don’t get addicted to the thing designed to be addictive. It’s easy bro.”
Stop feeding the troll.
Just don’t be a loser
If they didn’t leave after all the crap Reddit has pulled in the last year, they aren’t going anywhere.
Reddit is solidly shitlib. They easily get more upset over policy than their own lack of influence over policy. These are people who think the elites care about petitions.
Everything from the last year pointed to this, they just had to see it.
I did. I got banned for “Musk fuming is fatally toxic”. The platform is dead now. I bet he has good dirt on Huffman.
+1
Reddit has been compromised by the oligarchs.
I just left after twenty years. I warned them about overly censoring in their research calls but I guess they didn’t want to listen
Jesus has it been 20 years now? I’m old
I turn 40 on 4-20. We’re old now homie
You’re a wee babby. After the next few blinks, you’ll be 62 like me. Make the years count and don’t work for some corporate overlord anymore t than you have to.
Just a couple years behind you brother 😩
It always amazes me people keep on using centralised platforms like reddit.
Sure lemmy isn’t perfect but at least if one instance goes crazy you can always switch.
when it was good, it was real good. Every subject I could want in one place, and I could organize it as I wish.
Lemmy is a confusing mess and lacking in basic features compared to reddit (although there’s probably front ends I could download that would fix my complaints).
Obviously, I’m here, so the inconvenience is an acceptable price for not being on reddit anymore.
I’m using the voyager app and the experience is almost 1:1 with reddit if that maybe helps you.
eventually, imma have to actually look into lemmy front ends or clients. I stand by the statement that I shouldn’t have to, but I’ll prolly have a better time of things if I did.
World is already heading that way. It’s one of the few instances that requires your “real” email address and has deleted political threads.
This is the exact catalyst that finally brought me over to Lemmy
Same. I had JUST said to someone last night that I’d never been banned or even warned, though I’d said plenty stuff on the violently anti fascist end of things. A few hours later, I get a warning, though they didn’t say for which comment. Thankfully, someone told me about her!
Her?
I got a 7 day platform ban for calling someone a virgin lmao
Wait. Here? Or on Reddit? Either way…ugh.
On reddit
Personally I couldn‘t care less about moderator outrage. Just read the room already and leave. No amount of kicking and screaming will take the platform off the hands of technofascists. You‘re clearly not valued there so why would they care if you cry about their decisions? Just grow a spine already.
Exactly, use the power of creation and make it all together in one day
I got banned from reddit for saying that netenyahu should be put on trial and hanged for war crimes.
After their censorship of me for saying a reasonable thing (a war criminal made to face justice) I will say I have altered my opinion. He should be tied up, simply read his charges and then unceremoniously shot in the head.
Ah the “free speech absolutist” strikes again.
Any time I hear someone say they are “free speech” I am going to pause because what it means is: “My speech > your speech”
True free speech means you know when you’re wrong and when you need to change, or as I like to call it: EMPATHY
Add “brown nosing spinless wimp” to the list of acceptable descriptors of Spez
Fuck u/spez
This works here right
always and forever
