• @WatDabney@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    1652 months ago

    No surprise there - Republicans have hated Wikipedia pretty much from the start, since they require valid attribution and constantly fact check, which means the Republicans can’t spin their lies.

    • @EstonianGuy@lemm.ee
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      752 months ago

      Fortunately whatever happens, wiki is downloaded all over the world. If they try to “regulate” or shut it down, it will just pop up abroad.

      You cannot suppress open source info.

      • FaceDeer
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        352 months ago

        The tricky bit is that Wikipedia is a “living” document, constantly being updated and refined by a huge community of dedicated editors, and you can’t download the community and pop up a new one overnight. AI isn’t that good yet.

        • albert180
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          322 months ago

          Then you just move the domain to one of their many subsidiaries abroad. The Community will be smart enough to access another Wikipedia tld

          • FaceDeer
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            172 months ago

            Assuming that there’s just one single new site that pops up that everyone agrees to go to en masse, and that it has enough resources to handle the load, and that its administration is aligned with the same goals as the original.

            It could happen, but it’s by no means as simple and easy as cloning a repository.

            • FuglyDuck
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              152 months ago

              They’d still use the top level domain, just change the physical server location and point there. Canada, maybe.

              • FaceDeer
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                32 months ago

                You’re still making the assumption that “they” are the same people. That’s the point here, Wikipedia-the-organization is being threatened.

                • FuglyDuck
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                  62 months ago

                  And you’re missing the larger point:

                  Paranoia is bad. If you jump at every “they could do…” you’re going to be unable to jump at the “they fucking are doing”.

                  You want something to freak out about? They’re arresting judges for managing their courtroom.

                  Yeah, threatening to yeet wiki’s nonprofit status is bad. But its a very far cry from offing the board or whoever is leading Wikipedia and installing their own.

                  This rampant paranoia is not helping the 2yo that got deported.

                  They can move the website out of the government’s reach, in response to any action they might take. Worrying about any other possibility is just jumping at shadows.

              • Em Adespoton
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                22 months ago

                Problem with that is the domain is registered in the US. And the FBI has a history of claiming domains whose content the US government wants offline.

                • FuglyDuck
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                  82 months ago

                  What are you talking about?

                  You can just change to a registrar that is out of the country. Like. Really. Not that hard. This is a normal thing people do.

  • albert180
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    652 months ago

    Then move the foundation to the EU and tell him to pound sand

  • Phoenixz
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    642 months ago

    Alright

    Show me the exact article that is propaganda, and why

    Obviously you’ll have to add citations on your end to show why exactly it would be propaganda and oh yeah,there is the issue

    Wikipedia isn’t bad because it’s propaganda, Wikipedia is bad because it’s not propaganda

    • Lka1988
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      112 months ago

      Why do that when they can lie through their teeth to just get it shut down altogether?

      Remember: “‘Meet me in the middle,’ says the unjust man. You take a step forward, he takes a step back. ‘Meet me in the middle,’ says the unjust man.”

      There is no arguing sense and logic with these people. Their goal is to make you suffer. Nothing else.

    • @tissn@lemmy.world
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      Show me the exact article that is propaganda, and why

      Here’s Pulitzer prize winning journalist Glenn Greenwald giving you a few examples: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKwAJG1O8fE

      Here’s Wikipedia co-founder Larry Sanger arguing why Wikipedia is the “Most Biased Encyclopedia in History": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YR6dO8U8okk

      However, there is no reason to trust that the Trump administration has any good intentions behind their current attack on Wikipedia. My suspicion is that they want even more control and propaganda - just in their favor.

  • @FelixCress@lemmy.world
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    Some of the contentions in Martin’s letter echoed a report published in March by the Anti-Defamation League, a leading Jewish civil rights organisation, alleging “widespread anti-semitic and anti-Israel bias on Wikipedia”.

    What a fucking surprise 🙄 Facts are antisemitic now.

    • @MuskyMelon@lemmy.world
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      122 months ago

      Anti-Israel, anti-fascist, anti-apartheid, pro-Palestine != anti-semitic.

      The ADL can go fuck themselves for propagating otherwise.

    • @Avg@lemm.ee
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      52 months ago

      Been doing so for years, wouldn’t have gotten a degree without them so it’s only fair.

    • B-TR3E
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      152 months ago

      AFAIK other language Wikipedias already are incorporated “elsewhere” (the world¹).

      ¹ there actually is one outside the US

  • @ncrav@lemmings.world
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    162 months ago

    Go ahead, may they move somewhere else as fast as possible. As soon as we remove useful services from their grasp the better.

  • @kreskin@lemmy.world
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    142 months ago

    And of course, this is all about people pushing zionist land theft. If they arent busy beating students, buying politicians, and threatening universities, they are trying to literally rewrite history and limit everyones access to information they dont agree with. And they somehow think there will never be any blowback for any of this behavior. They really do literally think we are all sheep.