• Count Regal Inkwell
    59•7 months ago

    I’m so traumatized by how tech everything goes, that I read “Firefox is going to try (…)” and immediately braced for some dystopian bullshit.

    Then saw “Wayland” and relaxed. I have no hot takes about Wayland lmao.

  • AutoTL;DRBEnglish
    25•7 months ago

    This is the best summary I could come up with:

    Guardrails have been in place where the Firefox browser has enabled Wayland by default (when running on recent GTK versions) but as of today that code has been removed… Firefox will try to move forward with stable releases where Wayland will ship by default!

    Mozilla Bug 1752398 to “ship the Wayland backend to release” has been closed this evening!

    After the ticket was open for the past two years, it’s now deemed ready to hopefully ship enabled for Firefox 121!

    This patch drops the “early beta or earlier” check to let Wayland support be enabled by default when running on recent GTK versions (GTK 3.24.30 threshold).

    Firefox 121 is due for release around 19 December and if all continues to hold, it will finally ship with the Wayland back-end enabled by default as another big step forward.

    With KDE Plasma 6.0 using Wayland by default, XWayland rootful mode improving, and other (X)Wayland progress, 2024 could very well be the year of Wayland shining in the Linux desktop limelight.

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  • Syfer 🔒⚡ Shock
    -7•7 months ago

    @leo Firefox keeps locking up the RAM. Good job, Mozilla. I need to install 128 GB of RAM just to use your browser.

  • Syfer 🔒⚡ Shock
    -14•7 months ago

    @leo KDE with Wayland was all crashy when I tried it. If Wayland windowing is as buggy and crashy as their browser we’ll all need to switch to Windows or Mac just to get any work done.

    • @Laser@feddit.de
      3•7 months ago

      I’m daily driving Firefox with Wayland on KDE Plasma since years, not on Xwayland, and can’t remember it not working well. This on two different distributions (Arch and NixOS). Not saying this is your fault but your experience is not representative for everyone

      • Syfer 🔒⚡ Shock
        -8•7 months ago

        @Laser My experience is representative for enough people to show that Linux Desktop is a mess and is not suitable for production work. I don’t identify myself by my choice of software. I just want to get work done.

        • Emperor Palpapeen
          0•7 months ago

          @crypto @Laser Linux desktop is not one thing. If you have a company that standardizes on Gnome, then the software you need to work will work as they will likely have been tested to work. As for work, well, not everyone uses it for work.

    • @LeFantome@programming.dev
      3•7 months ago

      KDE currently marks Wayland support as experimental. They are expecting full readiness by Plasma 6 ( next quarter ).

      Firefox has had Wayland marked as experimental for some time. They are expecting full readiness by…hey, look at that—they say that it is ready now.

      So run Firefox on GNOME and enjoy the Wayland I guess.

    • LeoOPA
      1•7 months ago

      I suppose it really depends on when you tried it. Ubuntu 23.10 has been working quite well on Wayland. I haven’t once failed down to X, and the only papercut I run into now is with differently scaled displays (100% and 150%) where OBS will crash the session when moving back and forth.

      Everything else seems good as I haven’t really seen anything else break at all and I use Firefox, Kdenlive, Audacity, lots of chat apps, and played some games. Specifically, playing Vivaldia 2 while I was remotely compiling Gentoo using OBS to livestream.