There is talk of a lot of things. Did she provide sources, or is it like Trump’s “people are saying…”?

You’re correct that the US has adopted a terrible definition of antisemitism that conflates the state of Israel and the actions of its genocidal apartheid government with Judaism.

Someone recently shared the Jerusalem Declaration on Antisemitism with me, which I find to be a much more reasonable definition of antisemitism.

No? What does this have to do with Jews? These were some nationalist hooligans destroying Palestinian flags and harassing Arab cab drivers. Stop trying to conflate Israelis and Jews.

https://jewishcurrents.org/recent-polls-of-us-jews-reflect-polarized-community

In the last few years, surveys have begun to suggest that a majority of American Jews do not support unconditional aid to Israel. Instead, they are willing to back conditions that military aid not be used to further Israel’s occupation of Palestinians. In fact, a substantial number of American Jews appear willing to go much further in criticizing Israel than community representatives like Daroff: A 2021 poll of Jewish voters by the Jewish Electorate Institute (JEI), for example, made waves when it found that a quarter of respondents agreed that Israel is an apartheid state.

https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2021/05/21/u-s-jews-have-widely-differing-views-on-israel/

40% say they don’t have a lot in common with Jews in Israel. 42% don’t feel even somewhat attached to the state of Israel. 55% say caring about Israel is not essential to what being Jewish means to them. 66% do not strongly oppose Boycott Divest Sanction.

Stop trying to get people to confuse Jews and Zionists. Huge numbers of Jews have perfectly functioning moral compasses (probably about as many as average Americans) and don’t need to be conflated with Israeli instigators.

Its possible these numbers have shifted recently, as Israel works hard to scare Americans into fleeing to join their settler colonialism project.

Yup, I pasted it in the threads I came across that had poor OP articles. I could have written something unique but… exactly the same message was intended, and I didn’t want to leave any of their biased, popular posts without a response.

The only stories about this I’ve seen on Lemmy take a very pro-Israel perspective. Have the Israelis started doing to Lemmy what they’ve done to Reddit?

NBC’s coverage, as an alternative, says this immediately after it’s opening statement:

Videos circulating on social media showed violence in the city’s streets, with one video geolocated by NBC News to near Amsterdam’s central station appearing to show people chasing others and physically assaulting them. Separate video geolocated by NBC News showed Maccabi Tel Aviv fans in Amsterdam singing “Death to the Arabs” and “Let the IDF win. We will f*** the Arabs,” as well as tearing down a Palestinian flag.

…which clarifies that the attack was the people of Europe showing that unlike their governments, they do not tolerate genocidal apartheid supporters.

Funny how countries that have experienced brutality call it when they see it.

This article was written in 2022 and updated in 2023. Maybe a community like Today I Learned would be a better fit?

Source that they’re pets and not cattle? My farmer friend had a pet cow; they didn’t eat that cow. They ate other cows.

Hey now, we’re also going to deliver another shipment of 2000lb bombs to use against civilians in tents, but with a strongly worded letter attached.

But per the IHRA definition of antisemitism, which has been widely adopted (and here), anti-Zionism is antisemitic. Why do you hate Jewish people?

• Denying the Jewish people their right to self-determination, e.g., by claiming that the existence of a State of Israel is a racist endeavor.

• Drawing comparisons of contemporary Israeli policy to that of the Nazis.

Protection? They also need reparations after this.

Don’t worry though, people who dislike Israel just secretly hate people for being Jewish. Totally not because of the decades of abuse.

BBC is calling him a key figure in ceasefire talks. Unfortunately it’s in the “live” story so this prrmalink probably isn’t very good:

https://www.bbc.com/news/live/c4ng7g74xppt?post=asset%3A702473f5-3053-4c5d-bec9-c92763876f83#post

This feels misleading.

Vance made it clear, said Aaron Fritschner, deputy chief of staff for Rep. Don Beyer (D-Va.), “that he meant no disrespect to cats, but he did mean to demean women and still holds the view in 2024 that they should be punished for not having children.”

So the actual quote here is from a chief of staff of a Democratic representative, not from dolphin-loving couch-loving JD Vance. So it’s an accusation that interprets for us. And the tweet the article cites heavily edits the text it quotes:

“Obviously it was a sarcastic comment. I’ve got nothing against cats. … People are focusing so much on the sarcasm and not on the substance … and the substance of what I said, Megyn — I’m sorry, it is true.”

Heres a video of the clip without the editing: https://therecount.com/watch/obviously-it-was-a-sarcastic/2645895762

Ok, so the edits here at least aren’t misleading…

Then based on the 9 minute clip of her show in the original article, it seems like he’s claiming the substance is not about the cat lady comment, but some lies about what Democrats believe about families (democrats think kids are for the economy, republicans want to make it easier for women to stay in the workforce (I mean, is there a more blatant lie than that? They’re the ones who fight against extending COVID-era childcare credits!), etc). That’s what says he’s doubling down on. And given the context that does truly seem to be the lies he’s doubling down on.

Let’s try to stick to sincere, defensible attacks against people for whom there are many valid attacks, and not spread misleading claims that JD is doubling down on “crazy cat ladies”. He’s shit and we can demonstrate that in good faith, or we can lie like he does.

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I don’t want to be held responsible for the appalling actions of my government, but as a voter I understand why people in other countries would. I have more control over it than they do, so them influencing me influences my government.

It doesn’t say they’re excluding all Jewish people, it says they’re excluding Israelis. You know, people from the country where they all serve in the military, except the most extreme religious extremists (for now anyway), the country actively violating international law in the West Bank and actively committing genocide.

There are plenty of non-Israeli Jewish people. Non-Zionist Jews are lovely people and should not be excluded.

This is the same as refusing to do business with apartheid South Africans.

Casey Handmer seems to think there’s still an opportunity here. There are updated versions of that post, but I think this was his first on the topic.

https://www.king5.com/video/news/local/witness-describes-moments-small-plane-crashes-in-san-juan-islands/281-d971cdf7-82eb-411b-9f45-50dd1f8da15c