• @doodledup@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    Modern design they say? It still looks like 2010. They can’t even get the spacings and paddings right.

      • @LeFantome@programming.dev
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        274 months ago

        Depends on your point of view.

        Their motivation was “we have a vision for our UX and GNOME won’t let us do it — so let’s write our own.”

        It was only after deciding to write their own that they decided to write it in Rust.

        They like Rust, but that is not what motivated them to make COSMIC.

        • @AProfessional@lemmy.world
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          My view is that if the goal was to effectively make good software they wouldn’t start from scratch.

          If they used wlroots the desktop would be usable today with a good feature set.

          If they used Qt or GTK they would have feature rich well supported software. (GTK4 could have been an improvement for them, it’s designed around being minimal and having platform libraries implement design choices)

          They didn’t take a practical approach imo. You could argue its a long term investment but because of it it’s probably years off of feature parity. The only upside today is… it’s written in Rust.

          • @model_tar_gz@lemmy.world
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            54 months ago

            Sometimes old software just has too much legacy spaghetti written in to really build from though. Starting from scratch gives new ideas room to breathe and grow that might otherwise be impossible to implement in the previous framework—which while probably useful can also be stifling. See the reason why Wayland is being written to replace Xorg.

          • @teolan@lemmy.world
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            They dix not build the compositor from scratch, they built it on top of smithay, a library similar to wlroots but written in Rust.

            I don’t know if you’ve actually tried to use GTK or QT, but it’s insanely painful. There is a reason almost all apps are written in Electron. Native GUI toolkits suck. If they had used GTK they would have still had an outdated and hard to maintain toolkit, and to deal with Gnome politics. Using GTK was actually the initial idea.

            If we want Linux Desktop to succeed, at some point we have to build tools that people want to use. I’m glad they’re doing it.

            • not3ottersinacoat
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              14 months ago

              Linux Mint is one of the most widely-used desktop distros and it defaults to X11 (and Wayland on Cinnamon is still experimental). LM is known for not changing things until the solution is good and ready.

    • @TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world
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      174 months ago

      Yeah.

      Don’t get me wrong I guess I’m glad to see a bit more diversity in the DE space, but the design of cosmic has always been “Gnome but a bit dated and uglier” to me.

      Still, theming exists despite the quirks it can cause sometimes, so it’s not the end of the world.

      I’m still going to have a little mess around with it and see what it’s like though.

    • @Gebruikersnaam@lemmy.ml
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      When I used Pop!_OS I disabled their extensions because it felt way more clunky than stock GNOME. The applications menu looks out of place and the bottom bar wastes so much vertical space by default. In the end I just switched to Fedora when I got more comfortable with Linux. I’m a little sad that this looks exactly like GNOME with the extensions baked in and not something novel entirely. It is, however, exciting to see a new player enter the field and learn from their approach.