• @IndustryStandard@lemmy.world
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    Biden instantly sending 8 Billion dollars in weapons really says it all. The US is planning to let Netanyahu bomb everything he wants. When they strike back in kind the US will use it as a pretense send in troops to start a war with Iran.

    A smart move by Netanyahu. He knows he needs to get rid of Iran or they will outpace Israel. Now that Israel fully controls America this is the time to start their war with Iran with impunity.

      • @IndustryStandard@lemmy.world
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        97 months ago

        One day before the bombing of Nasrallah (with advance knowledge and US cooperation). But after Israel started their recent Lebanon bombing campaign.

    • @Sauerkraut@discuss.tchncs.de
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      Everything the US does starts to make sense when you realize the US government is fully owned by lobbyists and wealthy donors. The Military Industrial Complex is a trillion dollar for-profit industry with the deepest pockets in the world. The capitalists who profit from it effectively own our country.

    • @Maggoty@lemmy.world
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      They don’t fully control America though. Most of us didn’t even realize the actual situation until this year. The Palestinians just got lumped in under terrorism and that was that. The new media exposure is turning that around. If you look at our response to apartheid in South Africa it’s tracking pretty closely. The halls of power didn’t want to care and the people forced them to care.

      • @postmateDumbass@lemmy.world
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        The worst part is the behavior of Netanyahu’s Israel is making people sympathetic to facism and Nazism, something unseen since the 1930s.

        • @orrk@lemmy.world
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          46 months ago

          The behavior of Netanyahu isn’t making people sympathetic to fascism nor German fascism. the behavior of Netanyahu is literally fascist, the people calling out against Netanyahu are literally the opposite of sympathetic to fascism, fascism is way more than “Jew bad”, in fact the whole antisemitism is more coincidental as Jews were a larger minority group, and fascism targeted all minority groups, with Jews being the largest they also had a larger target on their backs in comparisons to other groups that also went off to the camps.

        • @Maggoty@lemmy.world
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          Yup. Although to be fair it was always there lurking. There was always a part of America that dreamed about killing, exiling, and/or enslaving half the country.

        • @Maggoty@lemmy.world
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          Even if contributions guaranteed policy that still speaks to my point of an elite that wants to support an apartheid government and a people waking up and getting mad about it.

    • @Y5QcY2Cu9@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      Israel does not “fully control” America (literally an antisemitic conspiracy theory).

      It is literally the other way around: The US controls Israel and has the power to make them stop their genocide but chooses to send them more waepons to use for more war crimes.

      • @diffusive@lemmy.world
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        I really don’t like french cheese. Am I racist with the french for that?

        I really think that Germany has too much power over EU. Does this make me racist with Germans?

        I understand some antisemitic may use war as a way to spread their idepology but the opposite is not true.

        One person may disagree with the geopolic of this war without having any issue with the citizens of a country involved

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          I really don’t like french cheese. Am I racist with the french for that?

          No

          I really think that Germany has too much power over EU. Does this make me racist with Germans?

          Germany is the country with the most seats in the EU parliament. The influence of germany is not a conspiracy theory, but a fact, therefore: No

          Are Israeli politicians members of congress ? Or the house ? Ok, so maybe the comparison is bullshit.

          One person may disagree with the geopolic of this war without having any issue with the citizens of a country involved

          Yes, correct.

          Not sure what that has to do with the fact that America is on the side of genocide of its own free will instead of being secretly controlled by Israel into being on the side of genocide 🤷

            • @Y5QcY2Cu9@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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              Yes they are ideologically aligned with zionism, that does not mean they are controlled by Israel.

              The outcome is similar, the analysis and legal ramifications are very different.

              Yes, many are bought by AIPAC. AIPAC works to the benefit of the Israel, but it recieves it’s funding from wealthy american christian zionists. Again, aligned with zionism, not controlled by Israel, not the same.

        • @Sauerkraut@discuss.tchncs.de
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          I really think that Germany has too much power over EU. Does this make me racist with Germans?

          Doesn’t Germany have the largest population of all EU countries? It makes sense that the country with the largest population and largest economy might also have more influence than lower population countries.

  • @Marleyinoc@lemmy.world
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    The companies making military weapons and gear for Israel can be found here according to AFSC.

    The US has committed grants to Israel to buy weapons through 2028. It’s benefiting the above corporations. While not all US based, it still is just another example of our corporate overlords fiucking the world over for profits).

    • @IndustryStandard@lemmy.world
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      Is there somewhere they are separated by country? Would be helpful to people who want to know what they should demonstrate against in their country.

  • NoneOfUrBusiness
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    Reagab stopped them from doing this exact same thing 40 years ago. Anyone still gonna say this administration isn’t more Zionist than usual?

      • @InverseParallax@lemmy.world
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        16 months ago

        Trump let them off the leash, and they went feral.

        Once they knew they could do whatever they wanted they decided it was better to beg forgiveness than ask permission.

        Then they decided it was better to not even beg forgiveness and just do what they wanted anyway.

  • @Hellsfire29@lemmy.world
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    Do people hate Netanyahu because Trump supports him or because of his actions? Kinda like how people hate Putin because they think he’s friends with Trump?

      • @Hellsfire29@lemmy.world
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        I may be shit posting, but I’m interested in people’s opinions as well. Because especially on reddit, people always say “this because of that”

        Also, I like to read replies to shit posts.

    • @MisterD@lemmy.ca
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      Nah. It’s because he’s killing people to gain territory. Terrorists, kids don’t matter.

      For some reason the U.S. is cool with that but not so when Russia is doing it to Ukraine.

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      I’ll reply with a question:

      Did most Americans only “learn” about how Putin operates after his link to Trump was spelled out?

      It’s not like Putin’s playbook has ever changed during my lifetime… (for the record I think what Putin has been doing in Syria and the old Soviet isn’t right).

  • @BlameThePeacock@lemmy.ca
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    -647 months ago

    Residential buildings that Hezbollah intentionally set up a headquarters in the basement of.

    Thats already a war crime by Hezbollah.

    • @KoboldCoterie@pawb.social
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      677 months ago

      Firstly, being the second one to commit a war crime does not make the act of doing so any less heinous.

      Secondly, do you have any actual evidence you’re basing that on, or is it just Israel’s word you’re taking? Because we know for a fact that Israel bombed civilians, and as far as I’ve seen, it’s just hearsay that they were targeting actual Hezbollah members. On the other hand, we do know for fact that they’ve used this justification falsely before, so I’m disinclined to believe anything they say, frankly.

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        Secondly, do you have any actual evidence you’re basing that on, or is it just Israel’s word you’re taking?

        I mean, high ranking Hezbollah members do keep dying in these strikes, possibly including Nasrallah in this latest one. Sure Israel are still dicks for accepting the levels of civilian casualties that come along with it but the strikes do seem to be hitting actual targets.

        • @Keeponstalin@lemmy.world
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          The targets (so far):

          Israel killed more than 700 people, including 50 children and 94 women, in air strikes it conducted across Lebanon since September 23.

          At least 1,835 Lebanese people were wounded in the attacks, the country’s Ministry of Public Health said.

          In addition to the entire genocide still going on in Gaza and ramping up in the West Bank

      • @ContrarianTrail@lemm.ee
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        -177 months ago

        Being detered by human shields means that more human shields are used. It’s the same logic as refusing to pay ransom for kidnappers. The opposite would just encourage more kidnappings.

      • @BlameThePeacock@lemmy.ca
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        -437 months ago

        It’s literally terrorist 101 to use human shields. This tactic has been used by every insurgency in the last hundred years.

        It’s why it was added as a war crime.

        As for the second one to commit a war crime. If you follow the rules, but your enemy doesn’t, you will lose. This is the international equivalent of the bunch buggy no punch back bullshit that let’s people hit you with no retaliation.

          • @BlameThePeacock@lemmy.ca
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            -37 months ago

            The leader of Hezbollah was confirmed dead in the attack, so clearly they were using human shields… They have been attacking Israel from a foreign country, and are not part of that countries military, which makes them terrorists.

            You don’t like the truth, but lying about it doesnt change the facts of the matter.

            • NoneOfUrBusiness
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              It makes them a paramilitary organization. They’re fulfilling their duty under international law to stop genocide.

              • @BlameThePeacock@lemmy.ca
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                36 months ago

                They’re committing war crimes constantly. Attacking civilians and using human shields by building their bases in residential buildings.

                They aren’t fulfilling any sort of duty.

        • bobalot
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          The IDF uses Palestinians as human shields.

          There are literal videos of this.

          • @BlameThePeacock@lemmy.ca
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            -56 months ago

            Yes? I’ve never claimed they aren’t bad. The US does it too, along with pretty much every country who goes to war because international law and the rules of war are bullshit.

            There are no rules in war other than “win”

            • @Maggoty@lemmy.world
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              This should be fun. Where uh… Where’s the US policy on using human shields?

              The “everybody does it” argument is complete bullshit, but I’d love to see your evidence that the US routinely and as a matter of standard procedure uses human shields.

        • @WoahWoah@lemmy.world
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          Well, it’s asymmetrical warfare. It works like that. You want everyone to line up in straight lines across a football field and take turns firing?

          I purpose we have all the world’s nations choose one competitive video game, and then everyone develops their gaming team, then all potential military disputes are settled by a best of five match of the chosen game.

          No wallhax.

          • @BlameThePeacock@lemmy.ca
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            -77 months ago

            Yes it does work like that, and bombing them anyways is the counter.

            Would be nice if we had an easier way to solve problems, but it’s not realistic.

    • @ContrarianTrail@lemm.ee
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      -77 months ago

      That’s what so many are unwilling to aknowledge. Civilian deaths are only issue for the western nations. Not to these extremists. Being martyred lands them into heaven. Not only is this a non-issue for them but it’s actually a good thing. They get to heaven and western media will slam Israel for it. Win-win.

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          -46 months ago

          Not willing to, but having to because there’s a terrorist HQ / ammunation storage in the basement or a missile launcher on the school / mosque / hospital yard that they themselves didn’t agree to.

          • @SmilingSolaris@lemmy.world
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            46 months ago

            Man you go from “that apartment and all people inside were terrorists” to “oh the civilians actually also hate these terrorists” real quick. The line between civilian or terrorist is whatever you want.

            • @ContrarianTrail@lemm.ee
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              -26 months ago

              Residential buildings that Hezbollah intentionally set up a headquarters in the basement of.

              At no point has anyone claimed it’s only been terrorists in those buildings.

              • @SmilingSolaris@lemmy.world
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                Just cool with targeting civilians then. Damn. Normally y’all genocidal freaks like to do a little double talk to avoid saying it.

                • @ContrarianTrail@lemm.ee
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                  -26 months ago

                  Attacking me personally (ad hominem) for a view I don’t even hold isn’t an argument against what I’m actually saying. I don’t know what you imagine you’re achieving with this inflammatory style of commenting and strawmanning your opponent’s arguments.

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      your comment will be downvoted coz lemmy is full of left wingers who prefers to instill their lame ass rhetorics than see the fact that it was hamas and their asswipe cronies that handed israel the reason on a silver platter.

      lets not forget,these hamas terrorist supporters had no qualms using civilians as shields,israel just decided to even the playong field.