Fuck discord.
What alternative would you suggest if I just want to talk to my mates while gaming? I gave up on setting up TeamSpeak after like an hour and many crashes and errors. I was a TeamSpeak fan for many years when using windows, but on Linux I highly dislike it.
I wish they would work on proper voice channels like discord has. The whole ‘meeting room’ zoom call style thing is obnoxious to use, and the screen sharing has so much lag.
There are “Video Rooms”. They’re in beta too.
Also, screen sharing is done via the same platform agnostic web APIs every other Electron-based app uses, though.
I got rid of screen capture induced lag by switching to Wayland.The screen capture isn’t the issue, encoding the stream is where discord manages to do it with only a second or so of latency. Jitsi and similar seem to have much longer delays.
You can use Mumble instead of teamspeak.
If you just want to talk, mumble would be a very lightweight alternative.
i just got matrix up and running. its a federated ommunications specification. id invite you to mine but im still ironing things out. check out https://www.matrix.org
Does matrix have voice chat, video chat?
It has an integration with Jitsi.
It has a native implementation for 1 to 1 calls and group calls is currently in beta for the Element client.
ive yet to test it myself but it seems to support voice and video
Nope.
it didnt even take that long to look, why lie?
It has Jitsi integration, have they added something else finally?
Not yet but it’s being worked on and it’s close now
Mumble (is comoletely free software and has a better quality even than teamspeak)
And requires setting up and managing a server, which costs time and money and requires a certain degree of expertise. Also it can’t really be used as a primary chat app, so you still have to use another app for that. It also doesn’t support features like livestreams so that’s another application you may need.
There is a pretty similar looking and function called Revolt that could be useful for getting people that are used to Discord to switch. I think they also have a long goal of being able to send and receive messages and calls with Discord. Obviously they don’t have that atm, but it is open-source and nice to at least know about in the event a quick exodus of Discord is needed.
Mumble is your best bet for an actual gaming voice chat setup.
Did you try the TeamSpeak 5 beta client? It uses CEF (Chromium Embedded Framework) I think so it should be pretty platform agnostic. You can join TS3 servers with it just fine :)
Why?
Old electron version (meaning no screensharing on wayland), really buggy linux application, no encryption, poorly enforced rules and policies, micro transactions… Honestly, the linux version of discord is so terrible that I’ve been running it from a web browser for the last month or so, it’s genuinely much better lol
Yesterday they enabled monitoring of all messages in their servers. It was obvious before, but now they are getting even more 1984. Communities should migrate as soon as possible.
I believe it, but citation(s) please?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6AlbG2ZoKs
They were already scanning every message and DM for data tracking and whatnot to sell anyway, the only difference now is they’re using it for TOS violations.
Privacy-wise nothing has changed, but actual consequences for actually bad things like racism / transphobia / csam / etc. is good. The only real issue is what if they decide that sharing a music file is piracy and now your account is penalized? What about uploading an NES ROM to a friend via a DM? Or sharing a link to an anime piracy website?
It’s the kind of thing that has to be a balance between making sure users aren’t doing stuff that is strictly against Discord’s rules, but also about making a good-faith attempt to limit things that can get Discord themselves in trouble from companies who are becoming more and more aware that Discord has been used as a piracy-safe haven for quite some time now. (Like how they’re limiting their “using discord upload URLs like your own CDN” issue last month.)
Here is an alternative Piped link(s):
https://www.piped.video/watch?v=U6AlbG2ZoKs
Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube.
I’m open-source; check me out at GitHub.
This news is notable because a mainstream proprietary software publisher has chosen to officially distribute using Flathub. I couldn’t care less about Discord, but it says a lot about Flathub’s mindshare. Proprietary publishers tend to pick AppImage, but this is the first publisher I know of that has chosen Flathub instead. It will be interesting to see if this becomes a trend.
That being said, Cassidy obviously had a very active hand in convincing Discord to adopt the Flatpak package.
There is also bitwig with an official flatpak
So it does! I didn’t know that. Admittedly, I don’t actually use that much proprietary software on Linux-based systems, so my knowledge is limited. It’d be interesting if Lightworks or DaVinci Resolve were one day distributed with Flatpak, although Blackmagic Design believes Flatpak can’t handle DaVinci Resolve’s needs.
But hey, a community-built Flatpak for Resolve exists already.
Plex desktop is also only on flathub.
screenshare with audio when
When they decide to use Electron that’s not 5 major versions out of date, but that’s not happening
I will never not hate Javascript. I hate all web dev nonsense. What a huge mess that all is.
Javascript itself is not the issue. You can have horrible code written in any language, and this is exactly what this is. The management behind Discord are sinking the company
Here we see the average JS hater, unaware of that which they criticize. Luckily, a new framework will be released before the coming winter to provide them with sustenance.
They’re already using an Electron version that supports audio sharing iirc, they just default to their custom implementation which doesn’t work on Linux
You could route your desktop audio into your mic, with the big downside thst the other party wont be able to control the volume independently.
I found
discord-screenaudioto be a better solution.
They haven’t updated their website yet. It still says to download the deb package or tar.gz package. No mention of the flatpak.
Hopefully they update it at some point.
If you must use discord for some reason use the web version in librewolf
I use the web version in Vivaldi, I’ve always had issues with video calls in Gecko.
just so people are aware:
third party clients are against Discord’s ToS. with that out of the way, looks really cool and I’ll give it a try!
I came here to complain about Flatpak vs. .deb, and left with a new thing to try.
I came here to complain
about Flatpak vs. .deb,and left with a new thing to try.The Linux community in a nutshell.
You could also cross over the last part and it would still fit right in.
While I often prefer native packages, running occasional proprietary software is one of the best use cases for flatpaks. I’d never install something like discord with root privileges.
I just use Flatpak as much as possible even for FOSS unless it’s not an option (e.g. VS Code).
Meeh, Void has it in the packages, but I don’t use it, too confusing for a messaging app if you ask me.
If you haven’t been forced into it by your friends/communities, then definitely avoid it if you can
Yeah, it was for a game, but I just said f it, too confusing for me.
Too confusing? How so?
You got servers… I mean, if I wanted something IRC like, I’d be using IRC.
And then there’s the left pane which I found totally confusing, had no idea what was going on there, notifications kept popping up, there was nothing in those chats or servers or whatever, and then there were ads, and… fuck, just too much noise for something that’s supposed to be fun…
Huh?
So, first of all, Discord doesn’t have ads. Second of all, what, since IRC had servers in 1862 then no other chat platform can ever have them?
I will say the notifications can be a bit annoying. There’s a setting to turn off the notifications, and one to turn off just the sounds, in the Notifications and Sounds categories in the settings, and I’d recommend to turn both off.
By “left pane” do you mean the channels? Basically, Discord lets you create different servers which contain groups of people and channels. Within each server, there’s a list of text and voice channels (and now forum channels) to talk about different things.
Discord can’t do much about there not being much in the servers you’re in, if nobody sends any messages then you won’t find any.
Maybe it was ads from the game, IDK… cuz I think we were on their server.
I’m just used to chat rooms being more IRC like, that’s all… this thing is supposed to be more advanced, but it was just more confusing for me.
Yeah, that part was confusing to me… like how can I create a “server” on their server 🤨… we’re all basically on the same server, just in a different “virtual server” 🤔 🤷… IDK, it never made sense to me, cuz creating a server means something completely different in my mind, not just “right click --> new server”.
Maybe I’m just old, IDK. In the end, we switched to Viber, one chat, simple, elegant, everyone had it instaled, end of story.
Within each server, there’s a list of text and voice channels (and now forum channels) to talk about different things.
Yeah, this was also confusing. I mean… come on, I’m not creating a freaking community here, we’re just discussing some shit from the game and having some fun from time to time, sharing memes and jokes, stuff like that, nothing serious, like that chat will be dead in a year (everyone migrates to another state in the end in the game), so why bother building this giant community, when everything will die down in a year or so anyway.
Just way too complex for the thing we needed. Basic chat features, image/video sharing, that was all that was needed… servers, channels, communities… just way too much noise and clutter. I can understand the appeal for people that game 24/7, but I don’t so, digging into this, just so that i can write “get to x:y coords and destroy this fucker” or share a screenshot… I mean… it just wasn’t worth my time.
Yeah, Discord servers are really meant for communities more than for being a group chat (although you can make group chats with up to ten people). Totally fair if multiple channels and stuff are more than you need.
Agreed. I keep trying to use it because that’s where Opensim’s Metaverse Alliance landed when Google Groups shut down, but it’s way too noisy. I wish they’d just settled on a proper forum site like Delphi.
Isn’t it in xbps-src? IIRC the Void guys don’t want to package things that don’t have a blanket redistributable clause in their license.
Yeah, my mistake, xbps-src… they might even have it in the repo repackaged, not sure, though it was in src only back when I installed it.
Yeah, I know that. They got permission for Vivaldi some time ago (like a year ago I think), so that’s great, I just love Vivaldi ☺️.
I was also working on some old niche wares, like Nero 10 for Linux and some other packages long out of date, but still work. They wouldn’t include them, so I might just put the templates on github or codeber.
Meanwhile neither Element nor Schildichat or Fluffychat are official.
FYI There are also open source discord clients available:
- Discordo is a nice CLI to use Discord
- ArmCord: Full Open Source Discord client with themes, etc.
- gtkcord4 & gtkcord 3: Both are simple GTK Clients for Discord
Third party clients are against Discord’s terms of service, so use at your own risk.
Nice!
Now I’ve just got to work out why mine has suddenly started crashing on startup with GPU errors.
dont know what happened to it, but today its a 404 page https://flathub.org/apps/com.discordapp.Discord
