Summary
Trump’s trade wars and tariffs are hitting his own voters the hardest, with retaliatory levies from China, Canada, and Europe targeting industries in Trump-supporting states.
A New York Times analysis found that nearly 8 million Americans, mostly Trump voters, work in affected sectors like farming, steel, and manufacturing.
While some remain loyal, others are voicing frustration over job losses and economic strain. States like Kentucky, Wisconsin, and Indiana are particularly vulnerable.
Cuts to Medicaid, Medicare, and Social Security could further impact Trump’s base.
If I were American I would worry more about the US turning into a fashist autocracy. Everyone can handle 4 years of economic hardship, but once you have the autocrats in power you can’t get out of that shithole for generations. Just asked the North Koreans, Chinese or Russians.
We lost that battle when we let corporations become people. Since then corporations are the only people that matter. The rest of us are only consumers. This is capitalism cannibalizing itself.
“We” didn’t let anything of the sort happen. The corrupted Supreme Court did. Our consent was not asked nor was it given.
Did we stand and fight? Or turn our backs. Our democracy wasn’t stolen from us, it was surrendered.
If corporations can’t survive a period of incarceration, like zero operations or sales, they are not people. Stupid that Citizens United was passed.
Stupid that Citizens United was passed.
It was evil and anti-democracy. It’s not clear how stupid it was. We didn’t immediately tar and feather the corrupt justices, so at least in the near term, they got away with it.
Everyone can handle 4 years of economic hardship
I believe that’s what most Trump voters are thinking about. They’re willing to make some economic sacrifices to get the country to change in a way they agree with. And the fact that their liberal neighbors will also suffer economically, and more than them psychologically makes this sacrifice more palatable.
No, they want to punish anyone who’s not like them, and they’d eat a turd if meant that their bad breath would bother a lib.
I think there are many people who can’t handle 4 years of economic hardship. A lot of folks are barely making ends meet as-is.
Even so, endless fascism is still even worse. They won’t go willingly, and they won’t respect election results. Leave it too long and it will be as difficult as overthrowing Hitler or the USSR. Actually more difficult, because those regimes faced actual opposition from abroad, whereas now it feels like the whole world is going fascist.
Or Palestinians
Many people cannot handle 6 months of economic hardship. Did you even think before writing that?
Did you even read my comment to the end before writing that?
Yep. I agree with the idea that autocracy is worse, but I couldn’t disagree more that “anyone can handle 4 years of economic distress”
I think what the person meant is a lot of people in the US are one or two paychecks from losing their housing and have virtually no savings.
Actions should have consequences
They’ve gotten away for a very long time with not having any direct consequences. Oh no that was the previous guy, oh no that was COVID, oh no no one could do any better.
It’s pretty damn clear at this point which stage of the FAFO everyone is in
Yeah but these people FAFOIR: Fuck around. Find out. Ignore results.
That’s just nested FAFO
FA -> FO -> FA about results -> FO
The bell tolls for them eventually, maybe their great grandkids are nice people
I’m so happy to see them get what they voted for, I’m also sad that all of us have to be onboard with them for the car crash.
I have a really hard time feeling sympathy for them. Like lots of people who didn’t want this are getting hurt a lot more now, so anything that comes to them is well deserved
Most of us aren’t hurt yet, but we will be.
We are planning for a huge downturn in July at work. I expect something between a recession and a complete shit show. Hoping for the former.
I’m so worried about the fascism that I can hardly bother to worry about the economic consequences.
Honestly I’m hoping the economic consequences are so severe that it cripples fascism. Basically if everyone’s unemployed and angry the ability to control folks becomes questionable at best.
I don’t know… The fascists are much better at controlling the narrative, the most likely and by far the scariest scenario is that they find a scapegoat somewhere and unleash the unruly mobs on them.
Folks are just as likely to go after those in power, also we are talking about Americans here. The Feds have been a boogie man for decades it’s entirely possible that the fascists lose control because they can’t hold the narrative to protect Trump and the centralization of power.
Remember Trump didn’t gain more voters between 2020 and 2024, he has reached market saturation for voters. I suspect that that is true for total support as well.
The fascists are much better at controlling the narrative
Yeah, up to a point. They have the initiative now, but there’s nothing inevitable about that continuing indefinitely. If all us non-fascists refused to comply in advance, we could rapidly exhaust them and start driving events that they cannot control.
This is where my fears are turning. I had ‘hoped’ things would get so bad we’d have mass revolts. I’m not sure anymore, starting to put together an exit plan, we’ll have a much better idea come this summer.
I had ‘hoped’ things would get so bad we’d have mass revolts.
Don’t wait. Organize. Be the catalyst.
Don’t buy stuff made from those states whenever possible.
Food is the one the one thing I buy regularly, that I directly purchase and can know the source on. So I’m sitting here with my little local CSA farm-share all lined up, and a tiny garden set up out back. There’ll be things I’ll have to buy, but I’ll either get them at the farmer’s market, or I’ll make sure to purchase imports. I’m absolutely determined to avoid red-state produce.
The leopards are eating good tonight.
At this rate the leopards are going to need to speak with a nutritionist about how to better balance their diet and daily exercise.
Good. Trump voters don’t deserve happiness.
I hope so. If you voted for Dorito Mussolini you deserve everything that’s coming to you.
Don’t forget the people that didn’t vote.
You mean that retaliation is the same as last time yet they didn’t learn their lesson last time?
Actually, at least China and the EU is better prepaired, and the replies came faster and in a more precisely tailored fashion. So this is not a slap on the butt pain, this is intended as a kick in the balls pain. Which even hardcore Trumpists might notice.
Musk literally said that Americans will suffer but that has to happen to “pull through this”
They’ll wait till the next administration and blame them.
Bold to assume there will be a next administration
As long as the nation becomes racist and homo/trans phobic they won’t care.
Sometimes people vote in such a way because of their strong convictions that in the end it’s for the better. Not sure these people knew what they were voting for though.
I’m fine with that. They can sacrifice themselves to Moloch if that’s what floats their boat. Better with them out of this world than in, frankly. What I’m not fine with is them dragging the rest of us into it.
