Most American thing I can think of.

  • @Brkdncr@lemmy.world
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    395 days ago

    “Legit question for rural Americans – How do I kill the 30-50 feral hogs that run into my yard within 3-5 mins while my small kids play?"

    • @remotelove@lemmy.ca
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      245 days ago

      Give the kids guns too.

      That was intended to sound sarcastic, but most kids I knew in rural America have been around guns since they were big enough to carry them. I personally started shooting a .22 when I was in kindergarten and was just hardly big enough to shoot a 30-06 when I was about 10 or so. (I am very much the liberal gun owner type, btw.)

      While I can’t change the past, I do find myself questioning the logic of my experience at times. For yet another direction shift, my girls are both trained in gun safety, but that started years before I let them even touch a gun.

      • @theangryseal@lemmy.world
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        75 days ago

        I’ve been shooting since I was about 5 too.

        I haven’t in many years, but I think I was 10 or 11 when my dad got me a 20 gauge.

      • @chiliedogg@lemmy.world
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        35 days ago

        Yeah. I grew up around guns. I was shooting 22s early like you, had a compact shotgun by the age of 10, etc.

        We didn’t live in the country, so while we had guns in the house, we did NOT have ammunition in the house until I was 15 or so, just in case me or my sister ever decided to play with a gun. We bought ammo on the way to the range or the hunt, and anything we didn’t shoot was given to a family member.

    • @finitebanjo@lemmy.world
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      You actually have to lure the hogs into a pen with multiple exits, drop the gates, and gun them down before they can manage an escape. You also should be very vigilant and listen well for any nearby hogs, the adult females tend to be smarter and more cautious but they’re the targets you NEED to kill.

      Failure to catch all of the hogs will allow the others to learn and adapt to the traps, and failure to kill the females will result in their population continuing to grow.

      Other effective methods are clap traps and spike pits but those don’t work well when you have children or other animals. There is also the M44 cyanide pill shooting trap made for Coyotes but idk if it works on Hogs.

  • @Lumberjacked@lemm.ee
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    255 days ago

    I went hog hunting a few times back in my redneck days. There’s virtually no regulations and we had no idea what to do. Me and my friends went out with a full arsenal. I had a 9mm, SKS, and a 30-06.

    I used every gun. It was crazy.

      • FuglyDuck
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        95 days ago

        Possibly not even that. A mere irritation.

        It’s still gonna fuck you up- they’re just ornery like that.

        • Lemminary
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          25 days ago

          Oh, ornery! Hah! Imagine someone thinking you said horny. Totally not me.

  • 🇰 🌀 🇱 🇦 🇳 🇦 🇰 🇮
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    5 days ago

    Why the hell wasn’t this an answer to my question a while back about RPG quests in real life? I can kill wild pigs. They’re only level 1 so it should be easy to grind.

    • @seathru@lemmy.sdf.org
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      395 days ago

      I can kill wild pigs. They’re only level 1

      These aren’t. Most animals that you get to hunt in the US will run away if you take a shot and miss. Hogs just might decide to turn around and fucking disembowel you.

    • @sulgoth@lemmy.world
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      75 days ago

      Just make sure you pack a very good gun and are up a sturdy tree. Barring that get a spear with a pole as thick as your arm and a tip with a wide guard on it. The guard is important, because a boar will impale itself to get to you and there’s a good chance it will succeed before expiring.

    • @Brkdncr@lemmy.world
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      25 days ago

      Considering any feral pig has a few kills under its belt and sleeps outside, it’s more likely that you’re level1 and it’s level 8 or 9.

    • @Mothra@mander.xyz
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      15 days ago

      When? Where have you made this question? Any hunting, foraging and gathering activity can be translated as an RPG quest

    • paraphrand
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      4 days ago

      Is it finally time for Some Boar News again? It’s been awhile.

    • Lemminary
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      25 days ago

      I can understand ruining the entire harvest crops… But not stealing the laptops! D:

    • I’ve only have wild boar jerky before and it was pretty tasty, but you gotta get the meat tested first bc they can carry some serious diseases.

      Sorta fun fact from my organizmal bio teacher: the reason you never hear about pork being cooking medium rare is that we are fairly closely related to pigs and so we are susceptible to many of the diseases that can infect pigs.

    • @supernicepojo@lemmy.world
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      75 days ago

      Meh, no, unless you trap them. Youve got to feed them a better diet than what they get in the wild. Also, this opinion resides heavily on the fact that industrially grown, bred and genetically manipulated pigs are damn delicious.

      • Sneezycat
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        115 days ago

        I disagree, my grandpa used to hunt wild boars and I have eaten them a couple times. They’re delicious, good meat.

        • @supernicepojo@lemmy.world
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          05 days ago

          You should go hunt a bunch too! Have a bbq party and invite a bunch of poeple to get them with the idea there are delicious 400 pound hogs running wild in your backyard causing massive crop damage. Your granpa would love that

  • Libra00
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    125 days ago

    Hogs are big business here in Texas, where you can pay a couple thousand bucks to shoot them with a machine gun from a helicopter all day, so… what’s the problem? :P

    • @HelixDab2@lemm.ee
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      95 days ago

      The problem is that there are not nearly enough people that hunt to even keep the population stable through hunting. The fact that hog hunting has become a business is the reason that real solutions to wiping out feral populations aren’t making headway.

      • @JayleneSlide@lemmy.world
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        24 days ago

        This right here. I fell down the “wild boar problem” rabbit hole a couple years ago. I was curious about what controls have been tried and what could be done to bring things back into balance. The statistic I read said that 75000 boars must be killed per year in Texas just to keep their numbers stable there. Holy hell. That’s a lot of dangerous game hunting.

        • @HelixDab2@lemm.ee
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          23 days ago

          If I was going to guess, the actual numbers killed are far, far lower than that. Especially since there are a lot of very large private hunting preserves that intentionally try to keep their feral pig population high so that they can attract paying hunters.

      • Libra00
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        45 days ago

        Oh I know, I was being sarcastic, doing the typical redneck ‘lol we shootin’ ‘em fer fun, what’s the problem?!’ type thing.

        • @JamesTBagg@lemmy.world
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          14 days ago

          When I moved out of Texas in 2016, some friends told me there was a $5 bounty for hog tails from the state. So, you could do it for more than fun; less than a dollar a round for .308, then 5 dollars per tail… that’s a decent profit.

          • @HelixDab2@lemm.ee
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            13 days ago

            Man, I wish good .308 ammo was only $1/round… Even if I’m loading it myself, good 6.5CM ammo (defined as sub-MOA performance) costs about $1/ea. with Hornady 147gr ELD-M bullets, and that’s only if I ignore how much I’ve sunk into a press and case prep.

            • @JamesTBagg@lemmy.world
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              23 days ago

              Yeah, this was before the industry decided on their panic price increaes. It’s weird how post panic prices never corrected. Going shooting is almost painful now on the wallet.

              • @HelixDab2@lemm.ee
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                12 days ago

                A lot of the prices have corrected, just not all the way down to pre-pandemic level. I remember that primers were flat-out unavailable for a long time, then they were breaking $.10/ea for really cheap SPPs. 9mm ammo was >50cpr for a while, too. Both are down now, but not down to the $.03 for primers, or 20cpr for 9mm. Some of it is inflation in general. Some of it is that there are more people buying guns and ammo now, and there’s a pretty sharp lag between demand and production, since no one wants to build new factories for temporary demand spikes; increased demand is driving up prices. Also, fun fact, a lot of companies that make AR-15s are getting very close to insolvency right now. Each person only needs so many AR-15 variants, and the market is super-saturated. That’s less of an issue with ammo, since it’s a consumable, but it still worries the companies that would be building new plants.

                Yeah, I still wish ammo was a lot cheaper, but it is what it is. Instead of high-volume shooting, it means more time dry-firing.

          • Libra00
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            14 days ago

            Assuming you’re a good shot and can hit a moving target. More than a couple-three rounds per hog and you start getting into marginal territory.

  • @rtxn@lemmy.world
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    85 days ago

    But how will Americans justify their private arsenals if they don’t have 30-50 feral hogs running into their yards while their small kids play?

        • Bilb!
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          35 days ago

          This is not true. There are squirrels who relentlessly mock me and I have done nothing to deserve it.

        • @november@lemmy.vg
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          Die 🤗

          (Edit) Apologies, this was needlessly abrupt. I will amend my statement to:

          I wish the same fate on you that you wish on other sentient beings.

      • @The_Caretaker@lemm.ee
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        -55 days ago

        You would be vicious too if someone was hunting you with dogs and a rifle. I have encountered several wild boars in Japan and gotten close enough to touch them. Try giving them snacks like you would a cute kitty and see if they don’t respond just like a cute kitty does. They mirror our behavior.

        • @SupraMario@lemmy.world
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          115 days ago

          https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_boar

          It is a small, almost maneless, yellowish-brown subspecies[4] with distinctive white whiskers extending from the corners of the mouth to the cheeks.[2]

          That is not what we have here.

          We have these

          https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feral_pig

          Feral pigs can be dangerous to people, particularly when the pigs travel in herds with their young, and should be avoided when possible. Feral pigs living in the United States have been known to attack without provocation and fatally injure human beings.

          • @The_Caretaker@lemm.ee
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            35 days ago

            I concede that feral pigs and feral dogs can be much more dangerous than their unaltered natural counterparts boars and wolves. Here is a video from one of my trail cameras of a Japanese boar mama and her babies. I have never met any females with babies in the woods. I have only met male boars that were by themselves. I always announce my presence by repeating a little chant while I walk. It lets the animals know I’m coming and that I’m not trying to hunt them. If they don’t want me to see them, they have plenty of time to get away. If an animal runs into me, I don’t want the animal to be surprised. That’s the worst possible meeting. https://spectra.video/w/n8XJxxYPK9pJqBcjAuQxQV

            • @SupraMario@lemmy.world
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              Again, Japanese boars are much much smaller than the boar we have here. Think game of thrones dangerous. They get to 400-600lbs and they’re practically solid muscle and have pretty much no natural predators, the ones in Japan are tiny compared to the ones here in the usa and parts of South America.

          • @november@lemmy.vg
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            “Without provocation”? We’ve fucked wildlife over so much they probably think they’re defending themselves.

        • @jagged_circle@feddit.nl
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          25 days ago

          I wouldn’t feed them. Same as alligators or bears. Feeding them is how you get them killed.

          Just watch from a very far distance until they leave. Have respect.

          • @The_Caretaker@lemm.ee
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            35 days ago

            I don’t feed them specifically or directly. I have trail cameras in the forest and I leave my kitchen scraps in front of the cameras. The boars get it sometimes but usually the tanuki (Nyctereutes viverrinus) get to it first. The two times I got close enough to touch boars were both surprise encounters. First time I was cleaning up trash under a bridge and the boar was eating mulberries off the ground. The noise from the cars on the bridge kept him from hearing me and he must have been upwind because he didn’t smell me either. I was looking down to pick up trash while walking. Something big jumped up and ran away from me. I jumped too. I looked and saw a boar’s ass running. He turned around and came back toward me. I showed him my palms, talked calmly and backed away slowly as he got too close. I figured out that I meant him no harm and then moved about 100 feet away and went back to eating. I kept picking up garbage. We could see each other but respected each others space. The second time I was feeding bread to ducks with my daughter and she had her shoes off to soak her feet in the river. She was sitting on a rock. A boar burst out of the underbrush next to her and came up and stole her shoe. He ran upriver with it, dropped it and came back to us. He started eating the bread I was trying to feed to the ducks. I just dropped all the bread on the ground and my daughter and I backed away from him. He seemed like he wanted to play, but I wasn’t going to risk him getting aggressive or over-familiarizing him with humans and putting him in danger. I’m not sure if it was the same boar both times or two different boars.

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    55 days ago

    Just launch all the nukes and make them all detonate to equally cover the entire continental US with fire and radiation … BOOM! … no more wild pigs!